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Charlotte DeBel
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I don't care about Sagat, but K', while he may be "typical rebellious antihero" to some degree, still has more developed personality and attitude than Ryu, who's boring and stereotypical completely from head to toes...
His only advantage over most KOF and SF characters is his fighting skills, which are sometimes blown out of proportions by his fans...And even that advantage is completely true only about Dark Ryu (who by the way sucks even more in terms of personality than regular one)...


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How? E.Ryu is less boring because he's evil & stuff
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Originally posted by Sado22
if Ryu threw the fight for his friend's sake they would have said so. Ryu lost fair and square.....learn to live with it.
I agree. Damn! It's been a while since the last time that happened. Ken would have also noticed if Ryu wasn't doing his best. I think he noticed something was wrong w/Ryu in Alpha.
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if i can live with the fact that Orochi Iori lost to a f@g like Ash, what's your problem? wink
Ash cherry picked him though. I doubt he can take O.Iori straight up.
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Originally posted by lightness
why do ppl like ryu so much anyways.
He seems to be written with a better story than many fighting game heroes. Unlike some characters, Ryu doesn't have to make other characters look bad all the time for him to look tough(like that guy who wore the red vest & baseball cap did). He's the prototype. He's got the best work ethic in games it would seem
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his playing style is boring. Ken's always been better. he had the better looking throw back in sf2 original version. He's faster, flashier and more combo friendly now.

not to mention he's more aggressive and can show off more in a match and still kick ass.
It's also wise to assume that ken has more natural talent. in most of the anime flashback, it shows ken usually dominating ryu. ryu just manages to surpass him because all he does is train and look for fighters now, and he still always has trouble with ken. I know anime isn't canon, but they are usually based on some truths.
Agree w/most of this. Ryu's still pretty tough though. I just like Ken better. Ken may just be the coolest character in fighting games. He's the best balance of cool & tough out there. I always liked "naturals" anyway

DSZ. Ken hasn't went "dark" because fighting isn't all for him. Using the comics, Gen had the "killing intent" when he beat up Akuma. He lost it later on. Killing intent isn't just for "ansatsukens" it's for anybody obsessed w/being the strongest above anything else


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He seems to be written with a better story than many fighting game heroes. Unlike some characters, Ryu doesn't have to make other characters look bad all the time for him to look tough(like that guy who wore the red vest & baseball cap did). He's the prototype. He's got the best work ethic in games it would seemAgree w/most of this.





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I believe thats still BULL. ..I thought you tired about discussion the subject.


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laughing It's still technically on topic. I'm comparing Ryu(part of the topic) to other heroes. Explain how it's bull please. Reply here


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laughing It's still technically on topic. I'm comparing Ryu(part of the topic) to other heroes. Explain how it's bull please. Reply here


Yes you were comparing Ryu to other heroes and he is the topic, but you ALWAYS love to somehow get in there and bash Terry "hence the red hat and red vest" hint.


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brain will you knock that sh-t off already. you knwo terry related arguments never get anywhere, and you also know that all that will happen is that buttons will be pressed. i can't help but feel that you purposely pass those comments and invite such things.
STAY ON TOPIC FOO! mad

Ryu loses to Guie if its during and before SF2.
beyond that Ryu wins since he has more drive.

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He seems to be written with a better story than many fighting game heroes. Unlike some characters, Ryu doesn't have to make other characters look bad all the time for him to look tough(like that guy who wore the red vest & baseball cap did). He's the prototype. He's got the best work ethic in games it would seemAgree w/most of this

Kazuya's T2 story pwned all other hero stories combined. T2 had some of the best stories around. Bloody Roar2 also had a good story. Rock Howard's story is very good as well.....oh and so is Cody's. these stories have all the elements that make a good story.
Ryu' story is full of retcons and him being a selfcentered prick. that is a fact. Gouken, before his death, told ryu and ken that they will have to face and stop akuma once he is incapable of it. When was the last time Ryu showed any interest in fullfilling his master's words. even when he fought bison, it wasn't cuz he wanted to save the world...all he wanted was a fight. that's beyond selfish. Heck even someone as selfcentered as Iori, went out of his way to fight Orochi since he knew that saving the world was more important than his rivalry with Kyo.
Also Ryu hasn't had a character development either.
so please...ryu's story is everything but well written.

~Sado
P.S. notice how i kept terry out of this argument. i encourage you to do the same.

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The people who find Ryu not self centered are the same that find BD Vegeta heroic.

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Ryu (and Ken) was first, and he would pretty much beat up every other 2d fighting hero, IMO.


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...didn't see this one coming roll eyes (sarcastic)

~Sado

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...didn't see this one coming roll eyes (sarcastic)

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Yep roll eyes (sarcastic)


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Sounds biased if anything and who is hating?


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This coming from a guy, who gets ticked every time Kyo triumphs and every time a FF character loses to a Capcom character.
No biased here, just plain truth and you are hatin, you and all your other anti-Capcom buddies.


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No biased here, just plain truth and you are hatin, you and all your other anti-Capcom buddies

is that an oximoron? big grin
an "unbiased fanboy" saying he is telling the truth

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DSZ. Ken hasn't went "dark" because fighting isn't all for him. Using the comics, Gen had the "killing intent" when he beat up Akuma. He lost it later on. Killing intent isn't just for "ansatsukens" it's for anybody obsessed w/being the strongest above anything else


Going by the comics this may be true Brain, but unlike Shin, I know comics are not valid if contradicted by higher canon. and in this case, it is. Gen's fighting style is called Assasins fist, of which he taught both ChunLi and the twins Yang and Yun, none of which have even experienced the Dark Hadou, and if anyone would have felt that allure, it would be Chun Li when she was seeking vengence against Bison.

Ken and Dan would also have felt the desire, Ken's rivalry (This is the same reason Akuma fell to it, his rivalry with Gouken), and Dan's vendetta against Sagat.


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Ya know, Ansatsuken actually means "assasin's fist", or something like that. You can kinda see it iwth Satsu (Murder) and Ken( Fist) in the word

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Literally, it means "Fist of Death"


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Going by the comics this may be true Brain, but unlike Shin, I know comics are not valid if contradicted by higher canon. and in this case, it is. Gen's fighting style is called Assasins fist, of which he taught both ChunLi and the twins Yang and Yun, none of which have even experienced the Dark Hadou, and if anyone would have felt that allure, it would be Chun Li when she was seeking vengence against Bison.

Ken and Dan would also have felt the desire, Ken's rivalry (This is the same reason Akuma fell to it, his rivalry with Gouken), and Dan's vendetta against Sagat.
Seems I have to do some research on Gen & the Dark hadou. Ken doesn't share Akuma's desire to win no matter what or use the style as it was originally made though


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This coming from a guy, who gets ticked every time Kyo triumphs and every time a FF character loses to a Capcom character.
No biased here, just plain truth and you are hatin, you and all your other anti-Capcom buddies.


Thats grade A Bull Sh!t Where the hell HAVE I EVER BEEN TICKED OFF to every time a FF character loses to a Capcom character? In the Ryu vs Krauser topic was I pitching A *****!...was I?...if not, then drop it. Anti- Capcom buddies?..thats funny coming from a guy who think Ryu pwns constantly and since OTHER PEOPLE seem to have a different opinion on Capcom we must be "Capcom haters". Get the f**k out of here with that!


and Who are you to tell me if I am hating or not!


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