nope both are by definition killers though I would attribute the latter to amateurs whereas an assassin is a job and therefore they are either trained to do it professionally or they do it over a long time gaining experience in efficiency and not getting caught and they do it for material gain whereas a killer can just be some mad dog moron who does it for either physiological reasons or by accident.
In the case of atton he was trained by the sith had proficiency with many weapons and also knew the enchanti martial arts all tiers of it which isnt something everyone in the SW universe casually knows in fact mandalorians respected it, it was probably on a par with there unarmed martial training.
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The only reason Mandos like Fett can kill jedi is because of their bad ass weapons, equipment(360. hud display in their helmet), and baskar armor that a lightsaber can not pierce. At least not the first time. Without that stuff they would have no hope at all.
There are also weapons that lightsabers can not defend against like them paddle beamers the pweck use in force heretic II refugee but I am still going with the jedi. A normal dude can't take a jedi by himself there has to be a lot of them.
There's a killer who simply kills people, regardless of method or reason. And then there's an assassin, who eliminates specific targets in a planned and methodical procedure.
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That's just a lot of bs. Aside from the expert combat skills a life time of Jedi training provides, the force provides super human speed, strength, stamina and increased threshold of pain.
Otherwise the average Jedi would just have to use blasters, there's a reason why the Masters are confident in giving them lightsabers, it means they have achieved enough harmony with the force that they can use a lightsaber effectively against any threat.
But there are a few legitimate ways a non force sensitive human can take a Jedi (there are some alien species capable of handling Jedi in hand to hand just not regular humans like Jango/Boba).
One method is overwhelming the Jedi with high powered weaponry from a relatively safe distance, any victory for Jango/Boba using bare hands is just bs. Some writers don't know what they are talking about, and that scan with the Mando headbutting the Jedi is so wrong on many levels.
In ROTS we saw a youngling dispatch a good number of clones by himself that right there is a measure of the skill and the physical prowess the force and Jedi training provide.
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Yet again, you are completely off base. No one said anything about them not being human- that was your imagination. You use it too much- give it a break now and then.
I don't think the Jedi are invincible; it is possible for a Jedi to lose a battle to a talented individual who is not Force-sensitive. Otherwise such situations would never occur. Jedi are still beings, they get tired, they make errors.
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Anytime a force-user loses to a non-force user it's either PIS or the force user got surprised.
Dooku threw Obi-Wan against a wall hard enough to knock him out. Why cant Jedi and Sith do that to all non-force users? If a Jedi or Sith is attacked en masse I can understand, but they should never lose a one-on-one scenario.
And a Jedi not snapping a non-FU's neck with the force counts as PIS.
I don't think Dooku would survive against numerous blaster-wielding opponents by picking them up as slowly as he did with Obi-Wan. With blaster bolts coming at him from every direction, he's gonna be hit by one of them if he's taking his time with TK.
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Failure to comminucate? I didn't say they weren't. They don't have the Super human reflexes or precognition to take Jedi in hand to hand. Not unless they surprised the Jedi in that situation and got the drop on them, otherwise mano-a-mano in a h2h situation they best be running.
A writer giving Mandos wins over Jedi in hand to hand situations without legitimate scenarios doesn't know anything about what the force is capable of.
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This is irrelevant to the point I was making. I never talked about regular humans in relation to what anyone said.
I just pointed out that there are some non-force sensitive alien (like the Gen'Dai) who can take force sensitives in hand to hand scenarios.
Non-force sensitive humans don't have the necessary speed to do this not to mention the passive limited precognition all Jedi possess thanks to the force.
So Jango taking out Jedi with his hands is plain bs, he doesn't have the pure physical prowess necessary to accomplish this, and writers who suggest that he does, don't know what they are talking about.
Jango and Boba have no physical augmentations to put them on the same physical level as a fully fledged Jedi.
All this without mentioning that a Jedi Knight can - on top of the physical superiority - manipulate Boba/Jango and the environment with the force to their advantage.
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Last edited by Allankles on Nov 12th, 2008 at 08:29 AM
jedi dont go around snapping peoples necks, its not their way. if they were a bit more ruthless, the number of jedi killed by non force users would be little to none. so if they started acting like that, that would be PIS.
Oct 22nd, 2008 01:34 AM
FER TEA!!
