Did you see how he tore through the jla? You are telling me that a rock should on average take Firestorm out? If they fought the same WW Hulk would have defeated the jla imo.
Once again, the only thing getting in the way of people not admitting to Hulk's superiority is that they don't like the idea that Hulk could wreck the JLA.
Its entirely asinine to assume that the JLA is superior to any of Hulk's enemies, they lost to a brick with lesser feats than the Hulk. You can't judge fights off of fandom, its just not proper debating.
Thanos doesn't have the feats that the hulk has. But it's about who he beats. It doesn't matter if a brick has less feats, if they can beat the JLA, then they are superior to the Hulk. get that thru your thick keyboard.
I think you mean he has no feats other than making the Marvel Universe his concubine.
Konvikt has nothing that could put him in Hulk's league, your fantasy view of the JLA isn't a comparison for strength, seeing as how its based entirely off of your love for the characters and not on any showings or feats. The fact is that a being who has never done anything close to being on the Hulk's level solo'd the JLA, and that means that the Hulk would do it with relative ease.
Thanos has plenty of feats putting him above hulk so what are you talking about.
Taking assaults from odin, taking assaults from galactus, blasting planets into dust, swimming in black holes. Thanos has feats that put him at skyfather level. Bad comparison, I know that you can do better.
How would Hulk do it with relative ease when he's never done anything of the sort?. The JLA are not like Avengers or X Men, each member is actually a heavyweight. Imagine if Marvel had a team with the likes of Thor, Surfer, Strange, Glads, Sentry et al.
That's what the JLA is, Firestorm, GL, Flash, Zatanna, WW, Supes, MM, Red Tornado, Black Canary, Cpt. Marvel (at times) et al Hulk doesn't beat these guys, not that Konvict does, but he's shown enough physical power and durability to stalemate them briefly.
Does that put him above Hulk? In durability it certainly does, since he doesn't get bloodied and rocked as easily as Hulk and his bodies outer layer morphs into some seemingly indestructible armor, Hulk can soak up plenty damage but Konvikt doesn't get damaged much at all.
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How is Konvikt even close to Hulk in durability, as pointed out earlier arrows went right through him. Nothing short of adamantium can penetrate the Hulk.
This is getting silly. The usual suspects are putting the JLA on a pedestal despite the fact that a brick far less than Hulk defeated them. The facts speak for themselves in this case, the truth is plain as day that Hulk is very capable of defeating the Justice League.
I have no further reason to post here now, the truth has been revealed, and I'm not a fan of coming up with more than a hundred reasons why the same repeated argument from already defeated opponents are wrong.
You do know that surfer, thor, strange, glads, and sentry would rock the team that you named. Thats completely different.
Konvikt showed no kind of durability that put him above hulk, hell ironman had to resort to nanites in order to bring hulk down due to his durability and healing factor.
Again, konvikt got shot by arrows, do you think that arrows would be able to penetrate hulks skin.
And I agree he did morph but how much of a difference did it make, did it put him above a angry wwh, thats something that we'll never know since wonder woman alone was basically stalemating him.
Who knocked WWH hulk out to give you a reason that konvikt is over him. Every fight that wwh was in was a prepped fight. They knew he was coming and they already had there plans which failed. Hell black bolts voice alone>>any damage that konvikt received while facing the jla. The blast that bb was hitting hulk with was seen from the planet earth. It appeared as if a black hole was being created and hulk walked through it.
Again theres nothing that konvikt showed that put him above wwh. Wwh was a world threat and people tried pleaing to him to stop his rage. Konvikt, well, he showed nothing to make me suggest that he is over WWh.
The arrows are pretty much made of adamantiumesque metals. The Arrows (Red/Green Arrow) use the best metals known on earth for their arrows.
As far as Konvikt being less than Hulk that's just pure opinion, both are bricks; one dimensional types with only brute strength as a weapon.
Difference is Konvikt's blood doesn't spill; he doesn't get busted up every time a super strong person punches him in the face. Hulk bleeds easier get's rocked easier (that's why he needs a healing factor), you're talking like we can't see the difference in relative durability.
Konvikt doesn't bleed, he doesn't get rocked easily and he has seemingly impregnable body armor that morphs on his outer shell when things get hairy.
Your whole argument is based on red arrows getting lodged on the outer layer of Konvicts skin? That's it? You don't see Konvikt getting busted up at all even as he takes shots from some super strong people.
Meanwhile Hulk is going wide eyed and bleeding freely when She Hulk punches him in the face. Konvikt has a harder body, Hulk's is more malleable and more easily damaged.
EDIT: Again this just means Konvikt is more durable, Hulk may or may not be stronger but he would be getting busted up if he switched roles with Konvikt in Trinity, even with the PIS in that fight and the JLA not fighting to their full ability, their attacks would be breaching Hulk's skin and causing damage, more so than what was achieved with Konvikt, because of his capacity to augment his durability.
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Except WWH was getting busted up with punches from every Super strong guy that managed to land a punch on him, Konvikt wasn't bleeding when he took the same kind of shots.
As far surviving black holes JLA members have been there done that, didn't stop Superman from being jolted from a punch. We know these people are all durable to varying degrees but Konvikt just doesn't seem to bleed and get busted up as easily as Hulk, it's all there in the comic panels.
As far as WW stalemating Konvikt you do know that she has serious defensive abilities with her magical bracelets which can deflect energetic and brute force physical attacks right? Furthermore the only thing Konvikt did to WW was throw a boulder at her, so I don't think you're making much of a point, seeing as Konvikt barely began to do anything to WW before he was stopped by the plot device.
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You seem to know jack about hulk, its not his diamond hard skin that makes him what he is today, its his amazing healing factor that healed him in two panels from all the flesh being burned off of him. Theres thousands that has drawn blood from the hulk but his healing factor which work like mercury makes him as powerful as he is today. You can punch a whole, cut his arms off, etc.. but that would instantly grow back. Again, hulks durability>>konvikt.
You must be clueless about Thanos to suggest that he doesnt have feats to put him well above Hulk. Thanos has made the Hulk look bad and taken on much more powerful characters before.
The manner in which Konvikt took aprat the jla I could see savage Hulk doing this as well.
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Oct 28th, 2008 07:33 PM
If they fought the same WW Hulk would have defeated the jla imo.
