501st vs. Hogwarts

Started by KingD1960 pages

Um, you've got hundreds of guys firing semi and fully automatic laser weaponry at the wizards, all they are are moving targets. And you never answered my question, don't you have to know what something is called to use Accio on it?

And how will the wizards stop blaster bolts from burning holes clean through their bodies? Or Anakin pushing them with enough pressure to break bones, or pulling them into his blade.

And for the record, I believe the 501st were in movies II, III, IV, V, & VI. Plus, like Robtard said, if the death spell is stopped by rock, their armor will stop it no problem.

Death spell isn't working on the clones.

Originally posted by KingD19
Um, you've got hundreds of guys firing semi and fully automatic laser weaponry at the wizards, all they are are moving targets. And you never answered my question, don't you have to know what something is called to use Accio on it?

And how will the wizards stop blaster bolts from burning holes clean through their bodies? Or Anakin pushing them with enough pressure to break bones, or pulling them into his blade.

Simple, if accio doesnt work, expelliarmus.

Anakin is one man, and he will be among the first to fall to a death spell. He literally has no defense against it. Not saying he wont do damage, but the wizards will see him as the commander and take him out quickly.

How will the wizards stop blaster bolts from burning holes in their bodies? Well, the wizards have a way of disarming clone troopers from afar with expelliarmus. The clones have no way of disarming wizards. And how will clones stop friendfyre, or any spell thrown their way? They cant. They wont. They lose.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Um, so what? Wont make any difference here, will it? They will be relieved of their weapons quicker than shit. Accio or expelliarmus FTW.

teenagers who are ultimately not trained soldiers and are simply kids, somehow have quicker reflexes then trained soldiers who are clones of a man who moved quick enough to go toe-to-toe with jedi now?

seriously some of those students are like obese 15-year olds. they have no combat training nor sense of tactics. they dont have reflex training or even school P.E. what makes you think any wizard student in Hogwarts can aim and shoot a spell at a clone trooper faster then a trooper can aim and shoot his gun? in any quick-draw scenario the hogwards student is going to get his ass kicked.

blasters have a range of 100 meters and can go through multiple walls. wizards dont have superior range with their spells then troopers do with their guns.

Originally posted by Robtard
Death spell isn't working on the clones.
Dude, stop. They are living beings, simple as that. Their armor has creases, the death spell will work its way through the black body glove and kill them.

Jeez.

Originally posted by KingD19

And for the record, I believe the 501st were in movies II, III, IV, V, & VI. Plus, like Robtard said, if the death spell is stopped by rock, their armor will stop it no problem.

WHOA. You really wanna bring the 501st STORMTROOPERS into this? 😆 I'd think about that long and hard.

Besides, there are only 500 501st in this fight and I recall him saying "clone troopers."

I already covered the armor issue.

The spell doesn't spread like that to my knowledge. It only works if it hits you, so unless you're hit in the crook of your elbow, or the back of your leg, then the Clones are good.

And yeah, they're trained military with personal shields, and combat training, it's called taking cover. Hell, they could probably dodge every spell thrown at them.

And I think if a lightsaber can block a turbo laser shot from a ship, and high powered beam weaponry, then it can block a simple spell.

And no, I'm not bringing the stormtroopers into it, you asked me how many movies they were in, I gave you an answer. They were all considered 501st, and I believe those are all the movies they appeared in.

Originally posted by WO Polaski
teenagers who are ultimately not trained soldiers and are simply kids, somehow have quicker reflexes then trained soldiers who are clones of a man who moved quick enough to go toe-to-toe with jedi now?

seriously some of those students are like obese 15-year olds. they have no combat training nor sense of tactics. they dont have reflex training or even school P.E. what makes you think any wizard student in Hogwarts can aim and shoot a spell at a clone trooper faster then a trooper can aim and shoot his gun? in any quick-draw scenario the hogwards student is going to get his ass kicked.

blasters have a range of 100 meters and can go through multiple walls. wizards dont have superior range with their spells then troopers do with their guns.

The death eaters, OOTP, teachers and dementors are really all that is needed here. The students will be there to throw distraction spells at the clones.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Dude, stop. They are living beings, simple as that. Their armor has creases, the death spell will work its way through the black body glove and kill them.

Jeez.

Crease doesn't mean it has openings like cloth,wool, linen etc does, the clone armor is basically a bio-suit. So no, death spell isn't going to work on them. Wizards are going to have to kill them with other spells.

There is also at least 1,000 clones( but likely thousands more), so while many of them will surely die, Hogwarts is getting overwhelmed by blaster fire. Stands to reason the Clones kill everyone and level Howarts before the Dementors kill them all, if they have a killing spell besides the death spell.

Edit: I see the Dementors aren't in here, figures you'd try to weasel them in. Clones stomp.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
The death eaters, OOTP, teachers and dementors are really all that is needed here. The students will be there to throw distraction spells at the clones.

death eaters, ootp, teachers, are all normal people. i repeat my earlier statement. they are not super speed empowered beings and theyre not even real trained soldiers. theyre not tactical geniuses either. so what makes you think theyll have quicker reflexes then a mirror-image clone of a man who can fight a jedi in hand-to-hand combat?

Thread starter never said Dementors could be used. He said teachers, DE, Voldy, and OOTP, not anything about Dementors. You can't automatically assume they can be used. If you wanna use Dementors, then the 501st can use walkers and all their heavy gear.

Originally posted by KingD19
The spell doesn't spread like that to my knowledge. It only works if it hits you, so unless you're hit in the crook of your elbow, or the back of your leg, then the Clones are good.
Actually, the death spell wouldnt be used as much as we are making it sound. Apparition would be used more than the death spell. Voldy, Dumbles and Snape, as well as the death eaters, would surely use apparition to its fullest, apparating clones away from the field of battle. Also, expelliarmus, the clones, as I have said MANY times, will be relieved of their rifles. All they can do once disarmed is go h2h.

And yeah, they're trained military with personal shields, and combat training, it's called taking cover. Hell, they could probably dodge every spell thrown at them.
Shields? Explain that. I dont remember shields in the movies.

And I think if a lightsaber can block a turbo laser shot from a ship, and high powered beam weaponry, then it can block a simple spell.
A spell is not a plasma bolt.

Originally posted by Robtard
Crease doesn't mean it has openings like cloth,wool, linen etc does, the clone armor is basically a bio-suit. So no, death spell isn't going to work on them. Wizards are going to have to kill them with other spells.

There is also at least 1,000 clones( but likely thousands more), so while many of them will surely die, Hogwarts is getting overwhelmed by blaster fire. Stands to reason the Clones kill everyone and level Howarts before the Deatheaters kill them all, if they have a killing spell besides the death spell.

Its a rubber body glove, man, the death spell wil penetrate rubber. Nice try though.

500 clones here, thread rules.

Amazing how you stressed how fragile stormtrooper armor is in the SST thread, now you are praising it.

and seriously, the jedi order was comprised of thousands of jedi. the temple itself had multiple hundreds in it at the time the clones attacked it. so what makes you think palpatine would send a few hundred clones? thats like one clone for every jedi; that wouldnt work. chances are he probably sent a full regiment, which si over 5000 men.

Well, considering that the 501st works in groups, backs will be watched by squad mates, as soon as they see that smoke of apparation, they will fire a shot, and more than likely hit their target.

During several of the fights, Troopers were hit dead center with blaster bolts and not killed, which indicates shields taking most of the damage.

And the black body suit is rubber, the armor itself is rather sturdy.

Originally posted by KingD19
Thread starter never said Dementors could be used. He said teachers, DE, Voldy, and OOTP, not anything about Dementors. You can't automatically assume they can be used. If you wanna use Dementors, then the 501st can use walkers and all their heavy gear.
Umbridge can control the dementors, they are literally a weapon she wields. To not include them is just stupid.

Lets let the thread starter come here and make a call. I'll drop the dementors until he does, deal?

Originally posted by WO Polaski
and seriously, the jedi order was comprised of thousands of jedi. the temple itself had multiple hundreds in it at the time the clones attacked it. so what makes you think palpatine would send a few hundred clones? thats like one clone for every jedi; that wouldnt work. chances are he probably sent a full regiment, which si over 5000 men.
Thread starter said 500. Talk to him about it.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Its a rubber body glove, man, the death spell wil penetrate rubber. Nice try though.

its not rubber. clone suits are designed to work in a vacuum, meaning space. so that means the body glove is completely 100% sealed, as any tiny hole even molecular would result in the wearer dying in a vacuum.

Originally posted by KingD19
Well, considering that the 501st works in groups, backs will be watched by squad mates, as soon as they see that smoke of apparation, they will fire a shot, and more than likely hit their target.

During several of the fights, Troopers were hit dead center with blaster bolts and not killed, which indicates shields taking most of the damage.

And the black body suit is rubber, the armor itself is rather sturdy.

There IS no smoke with apparition. 🙄

Did any of the troopers say "Dude we got shields!!!"? Nope. Clones have no shields. Nothig is said of it in the movies.

Yeah, but if he does accept Dementors, then the 501st can use their heavy gear and ships, since those are weapons that the 501st wield.

So if they don't have shields, tell me why some got hit square in the chest and died, while others got hit square in the chest, then kept fighting?