Originally posted by Galan007
Serpent-amped Hulk (Nul) =/= WBH. Just saying.
No, not according to on panel feats.
Originally posted by Naija boy
Nul is not stronger than WBH at all. The mere notion of such considering their respective feats is flat out ridiculous........
My question is what stops the Hulk from jumping at Sersi faster than she can think, and ending this before she could blink? She has lost to far weaker opponents than WB Hulk.
Originally posted by carver9
WBH is the strongest that has appeared in a comic. You asking me this is insane. Nul did nothing to suggest he is even a fraction of WBH. WWH>>Nul.
I tend to agree with this since in Nul's case he did not seem to have the ability to amplify the way even the Savage Hulk could. Who was in the drivers seat anyways? If it was Nul, and not Banner, then I don't see him as being any more powerful than Merged Hulk with a mystical hammer.
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A mild WBH. Armageddon is more powerful than anyone Nul faced in those scans and he couldn't even damage Hulk.
Originally posted by Stoic
I tend to agree with this since in Nul's case he did not seem to have the ability to amplify the way even the Savage Hulk could. Who was in the drivers seat anyways? If it was Nul, and not Banner, then I don't see him as being any more powerful than Merged Hulk with a mystical hammer.
That's what Im saying. Nul isn't more powerful than WWH and he sure as hell isn't more powerful than WBH.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Merged Hulk was portrayed on a level above Savage Hulk prior to the Savage Banner inhibition. Just saying.
Yep very true, he was stated as being 2x the Savage Hulk at base, but he was not capable of amplifying the way that the Savage Hulk was able to, thus in the long run (5-10 minutes) Savage Hulk would be able to blow right past Merged Hulk.
Originally posted by carver9You commented that WBH "stated" he was superior to Nul... Either post that "statement", or accept that you tend to 'fib' in Hulk-related threads. 🙂
WBH is the strongest Hulk that has appeared in a comic. You asking me this is insane. Nul did nothing to suggest he is even a fraction of WBH. WWH>>Nul.
Originally posted by Stoic
Yep very true, he was stated as being 2x the Savage Hulk at base, but he was not capable of amplifying the way that the Savage Hulk was able to, thus in the long run (5-10 minutes) Savage Hulk would be able to blow right past Merged Hulk.
Disagreed. From what I remember, Merged Hulk was consistently portrayed as above Savage Hulk in stats and he was very much capable of raging out. He just didn't have to be completely out of it to shoot up in stats, very similar to Green Scar's calm rage think. As a matter of fact, that factor was introduced by PAD (Creator of the Merged incarnation).
The entire premise behind the Savage Banner was that he would get too angry and strong, and as a result change.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Disagreed. From what I remember, Merged Hulk was consistently portrayed as above Savage Hulk in stats and he was very much capable of raging out. He just didn't have to be completely out of it to shoot up in stats, very similar to Green Scar's calm rage think. As a matter of fact, that factor was introduced by PAD (Creator of the Merged incarnation).The entire premise behind the Savage Banner was that he would get too angry and strong, and as a result change.
Again I agree with you, but the Savage Hulk did not have these limitations. On paper Sav. Hulk would be capable of eventually exceeding merged Hulk because of the clause that you mentioned with him reverting to human.
Again, I'm not disputing who the most powerful of two incarnations were, but the idea that the Savage Hulk would have never had the issues that merged Hulk had when he fought Simon has me feeling that Savage Hulk in the long run is superior. The key here is "in the long run".
This is who Nul reminded me of. A Hulk that was incapable of digging as deep as WW Hulk or WB Hulk, and do it at will.
Originally posted by Stoic
Again I agree with you, but the Savage Hulk did not have these limitations. On paper Sav. Hulk would be capable of eventually exceeding merged Hulk because of the clause that you mentioned with him reverting to human.Again, I'm not disputing who the most powerful of two incarnations were, but the idea that the Savage Hulk would have never had the issues that merged Hulk had when he fought Simon has me feeling that Savage Hulk in the long run is superior. The key here is "in the long run".
I'm referring to the Merged Hulk before the Savage Banner limitation. You do realize that this clause was introduced pretty late into PAD's run right?
For the large majority, Merged Hulk was Savage Hulk except smarter, stronger, better damage soak, more cunning etc. on top of possessing Savage Hulk's ever increasing strength. Merged Hulk would have beaten down Savage Hulk sooner or later from what I remember of PAD's run and how he compared to Savage in performance.
Originally posted by Stoic
This is who Nul reminded me of. A Hulk that was incapable of digging as deep as WW Hulk or WB Hulk, and do it at will.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm referring to the Merged Hulk before the Savage Banner limitation. You do realize that this clause was introduced pretty late into PAD's run right?For the large majority, Merged Hulk was Savage Hulk except smarter, stronger, better damage soak, more cunning etc. on top of possessing Savage Hulk's ever increasing strength. Merged Hulk would have beaten down Savage Hulk sooner or later from what I remember of PAD's run and how he compared to Savage in performance.
He was very capable of raging out, it simply took more pressure to push him over the edge but that was alright because he had a higher base. His basically Green Scar but less powerful. Just because he isn't foaming at the mouth doesn't mean he isn't getting stronger.
Who do you consider more powerful, Merge Hulk or Nul?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
In practice, I doubt either Nul or World War Hulk would be more powerful than Merged based on the levels his operated at. On paper, I guess the later incarnations would be more powerful, upgrades and all that, but paper =/= practice at times.
Who did Merge Hulk beat that puts him so high up the chart.
