Relative showings matter concerning peers. I can show feats that makes superman a lot stronger than captain marvel too, y'know. Also hercules tanked a punch from pre-retcon beyonder. Clearly he's far above Thor, right?
So I take it you believe that Captain Marvel is the exact equal of Superman since they are always peers or equals when in direct contest everything else be damned? That's an interesting stance based on some of your previous posts that I've read.
Speaking of relative showings, how about Thor stalemating Celestial Armor Gilgamesh (A significant power-up) in the same arc that regular Gilgamesh stalemated Hercules?
Or that Destroyer story where they both took him on and Thor looked better. There was also the Armak story where Thor stalemated him IIRC while Hercules was completely outclassed. Tbf to Hercules, he wasn't 100% against Armak because he fought the Destroyer or something previously (Don't remember the exact details as I don't have my comics with me).
It was a counter to the Blood Oath scan. Yes it is. Breaking out of a disadvantageous position with someone who has roughly equal strength to you is always impressive to normal human beings.
also, when has Hercules broken a grip like that from Thor?
Depends on how they break out of the hold. It's pretty clear that Thor used sheer strength in the scan you posted but sometimes character's use skill to outmaneuver their opponent such as flipping them over etc.
They've had some pretty intense fights in their day, lot of throwing tossing, etc so I'm sure Hercules has outmaneuvered Thor before but never just overpowered him like Thor did there that I know of. Which is what it was, he broke past Hercules' strength.
Its a joke story and the narration wasn't meant to be taken seriously. All they did on panel was break a plateau.
In one of his fights with thor. Let me check my comics.
Thor came off as practically as strong as the Destroyer while Hercules was completely manhandled and was tossed around (I think I'm missing one scan where the Destroyer tosses Hercules after catching his punch but whatever).
Like I said, he wasn't a 100% but Armak completely no-sold him and left him flat on his ass with one blow compared to Thor. Even if Hercules at half strength it's still an impressive comparison.
No one is denying that Hercules and Thor are equal like 99% of the time but there is that 1% of the time that Thor seems to have a physically higher threshold then Hercules that he can push himself too.
Also, why are even discussing Hercules in a Wonder Woman thread? Only an idiot thinks that Diana being stronger then DC Hercules translates into her being stronger then Marvel Hercules and then by extension Thor.
Those scans depict them as equals in strength, yes. There are also examples where Thor can and has operate on a level than Hercules can't, a hell of a lot more than Hercules being better than Thor at anything. If you (or more importantly, Marvel) had to choose who ultimately edges out the other, the answer is Thor.
The only nerve you've touched is your incessant need to drag the S shield in pretty much every thread ever to make irrelevant off topic examples. You've cemented your gimmick more than enough on KMC. There's no reason to keep driving the point home.
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