Originally posted by zopzop
I'm not disputing that. It was pathetic. He made up for it though by sealing up that universe and nothing was allowed to get in or out till he willed the barrier gone.That's damn impressive considering what was going on in that issue.
Closing off the doorways to another universes isn't such a great feat.
uhuh
Originally posted by abhilegendIt just shows he was unable to beat a guy who committed suicide on fear of some ships.
Korvac defeated "the most powerful Multiversal cosmic assembly ever" up to that point. (minus the LT)
The LT and Korvac though never confronted each other.
Korvac never saw the LT or ever knew he was there.
The LT attacked Korvac indirectly using a single sun/star
against a guy who had absorbed a Celestial host amongst other powers. 😂 Senseless.
LT should've used his absolute (at-least) over-universal power like he demonstrated when he sealed off that entire reality.
But the plot called for Korvac to erase that reality ... which tied into another "What If" two issues later. (so LT wasn't allowed to stomp)
LT should've never been there if you ask me. (restrained by plot so pointless appearance)
Originally posted by abhilegendClosing off the doorways to another universes isn't such a great feat.
The LT sealed (essentially encasing) that entire universe in an impenetrable barrier.
Here is the scene if anyone is interested...
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After looking at it, some seem more durable than others. 5 of them were gone after this attack. Either bfred or died. Who knows but as shown, Ex didn't have a scratch on him.
Originally posted by carver9
When has Heralds tanked a sun going nova on them? Key word, TANKED. Scans please because those same beings you are calling a Herald brushed off a sun exploding in their face destroying said solar system.
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Originally posted by Mr MasterYou want to post the scans or should I?
"fear of some ships" ... is a bit of an understatement.
Titles are meaningless. Show feats for the said assembly.Korvac defeated "the most powerful Multiversal cosmic assembly ever" up to that point. (minus the LT)
So? It's, still on panel and it's just one of many low showings he has. You don't like it? Sue the writer.The LT and Korvac though never confronted each other.
Korvac never saw the LT or ever knew he was there.The LT attacked Korvac indirectly using a single sun/star
against a guy who had absorbed a Celestial host amongst other powers. 😂 Senseless.
Yet Quasar jumped to the same reality in Quasar 30. So, no it wasn't sealed.LT should've used his absolute (at-least) over-universal power like he demonstrated when he sealed off that entire reality.
This "restricted by plot" nonsense might work on someone else. Try again to excuse LT's impotence.But the plot called for Korvac to erase that reality ... which tied into another "What If" two issues later. (so LT wasn't allowed to stomp)
LT should've never been there if you ask me. (restrained by plot so pointless appearance)
Yet Quasar and Living Laser both escaped in that reality.It wasn't 'doorways' friend.
The LT sealed (essentially encasing) that entire universe in an impenetrable barrier.
Some real impenetrable shields right there.
Originally posted by carver9
When has Heralds tanked a sun going nova on them? Key word, TANKED. Scans please because those same beings you are calling a Herald brushed off a sun exploding in their face destroying said solar system.
John Stewart survived a supernova by simple auto shield. Adam Warlock survived one. Nova survived one.
None are even high heralds.
Originally posted by abhilegendYou want to post the scans or should I?
It was actually a "universal armada" compose of "countless star-ships."
Which doesn't make sense, cause in the end, Korvac was able to expand his consciousness and even become one with Eternity:
This story is filled with inconsistencies. 👆
Originally posted by abhilegendTitles are meaningless. Show feats for the said assembly.
"The most awesome assembly of diverse power-wielders in the history of the Multiverse"
You, are also free to "sue the writer" if you're not happy with that on panel showcase.
Originally posted by abhilegendSo? It's, still on panel and it's just one of many low showings he has. You don't like it? Sue the writer.
LT had absolute (at-least) universal capabilities and decided to rely on a single solar scale attack.
That's called PIS/CIS!
Originally posted by abhilegendYet Quasar jumped to the same reality in Quasar 30. So, no it wasn't sealed.
Yet Quasar and Living Laser both escaped in that reality.
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... and I'm sure the LT would've allowed that alternate Uatu (or a 'Watcher' in general) safe passage via his tech ... But that detail is meaningless.
Because Quasar may have never entered the reality the LT separated from the Multiverse.
It seems Quasar entered another Alternate reality similar ... BUT ... different that the original "What If Korvac story."
PROOF!
In Quasar #30, Quasar finds Earth's moon, (in-tact) in the moment Korvac is literally nullifying the universe:
BUT ...
Earth's moon was completely obliterated in the original story (What IF #32) way before Korvac had even decided to UN the universe:
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As you can see in these scans, the moon was destroyed during Korvac's and Stranger's struggle over it:
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So this is clear evidence,
that Quasar either didn't enter the original "What If" story,
or, Gruenwald overlooked/forgot about that detail in Quasar #30.
In which case he could've also overlooked/forgotten about the LT barrier detail in said book.
(Gruenwald wrote both stories so ...)
Originally posted by abhilegendSome real impenetrable shields right there.
Originally posted by Mr Master
So this is clear evidence,
that Quasar either didn't enter the original "What If" story,
or, Gruenwald overlooked/forgot about that detail in Quasar #30.In which case he could've also overlooked/forgotten about the LT barrier detail in said book.
(Gruenwald wrote both stories so ...)
There's no reason to think not.
The Living Laser had entered that alternate reality illegally by way of the Watcher's portal. The Watcher was in deep sh|t because he allowed his portal to be used in that manner and he needed Quasar's help to fix the issue or he'd lose access to his viewing portal (all this is stated on panel).
Fact :
We never saw at what point the LL entered the What If : Korvac reality.
Here's where the conjecture comes in :
1) He must have entered it BEFORE the events that led up to the LT sealing off that particular reality.
2) Quasar was allowed in because he was apprehending an 'illegal' resident in that reality, the LL.
Originally posted by Mr MasterSo just some ships. Good.
You stated: Korvac killed himself on "fear of some ships" ... I simply highlighted that was an "understatement."It was actually a "universal armada" compose of "countless star-ships."
Which doesn't make sense, cause in the end, Korvac was able to expand his consciousness and even become one with Eternity:
This story is filled with inconsistencies.
Hey friend, I'm just conveying what Mark Gruenwald claimed in narration columns:Pure hyperbole. Show some feats for these alternate reality characters while you're at it."The [b]most awesome assembly of diverse power-wielders in the history of the Multiverse"
You, are also free to "sue the writer" if you're not happy with that on panel showcase.Why would I do that? I'm not the one who is hanging on hyperboles of narration to prove his point.
What "one low showing?" ... In the Korvac What IF?" ... LT didn't do anything. (restricted by plot)No, simply a low showing.
There is no "plot restriction" clause anywhere shown in the comic or anywhere else. Its just your opinion.
Which means absolutely nothing BTW.
LT had absolute (at-least) universal capabilities and decided to rely on a single solar scale attack.Sealing off the universe does not means he has universal level destruction capabilities. Linear Men can do it. They can't destroy the universe.That's called PIS/CIS!
Well, actually, it was Uatu's tech (inter-dimensional portal) which allowed Quasar (including L Laser) to do that."I'm sure". Post a scan of this claim.[img=http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t/23606345_Q1.jpg]
[img=http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t/23606346_Q2.jpg]... and I'm sure the LT would've allowed that alternate Uatu (or a 'Watcher' in general) safe passage via his tech ... But that detail is meaningless.
And its not meaningless.
Because Quasar may have never entered the reality the LT separated from the Multiverse.Inconsistencies happen in these kind of revisits. Here your trusted site Marvunapp informs us that Quasar went into the same realityIt seems Quasar entered another Alternate reality similar ... BUT ... different that the original "What If Korvac story."
PROOF!
In Quasar #30, Quasar finds Earth's moon, (in-tact) in the moment Korvac is literally nullifying the universe:
BUT ...
Earth's moon was completely obliterated in the original story (What IF #32) way before Korvac had even decided to UN the universe:
[img=http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t/23606352_Q8.jpg]
[img=http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t/23606353_Q9.jpg]As you can see in these scans, the moon was destroyed during Korvac's and Stranger's struggle over it:
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/earthkorvacconquers.htm
I win.
================================"Just because Gruenwald forgot about the destruction of moon, the entire story was an alternate reality". Seriously?So this is clear evidence,
that Quasar either didn't enter the original "What If" story,
or, Gruenwald overlooked/forgot about that detail in Quasar #30.
In which case he could've also overlooked/forgotten about the LT barrier detail in said book.(Gruenwald wrote both stories so ...)
There's no reason to think not. [/B]
Nope, try again.
Originally posted by zopzop
Yup. The moon is the dead giveaway. The other explanation I've seen is a little more convoluted but it makes sense too.The Living Laser had entered that alternate reality illegally by way of the Watcher's portal. The Watcher was in deep sh|t because he allowed his portal to be used in that manner and he needed Quasar's help to fix the issue or he'd lose access to his viewing portal (all this is stated on panel).
Fact :
We never saw at what point the LL entered the What If : Korvac reality.Here's where the conjecture comes in :
1) He must have entered it BEFORE the events that led up to the LT sealing off that particular reality.
2) Quasar was allowed in because he was apprehending an 'illegal' resident in that reality, the LL.
It was either a different alternate reality,
or Gruenwald simply forgot about the LT's barrier, just like he forgot about the moon.
Simple, real simple.
Originally posted by zopzop
Yup. The moon is the dead giveaway. The other explanation I've seen is a little more convoluted but it makes sense too.The Living Laser had entered that alternate reality illegally by way of the Watcher's portal. The Watcher was in deep sh|t because he allowed his portal to be used in that manner and he needed Quasar's help to fix the issue or he'd lose access to his viewing portal (all this is stated on panel).
Fact :
We never saw at what point the LL entered the What If : Korvac reality.Here's where the conjecture comes in :
1) He must have entered it BEFORE the events that led up to the LT sealing off that particular reality.
2) Quasar was allowed in because he was apprehending an 'illegal' resident in that reality, the LL.
And that was long after LT "sealed" the universe off. Even Marvunapp says so.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Except we saw when Quasar entered in that reality. It was just seconds before Korvac was going to destroy the universe using Ultimate Nullifier.And that was long after LT "sealed" the universe off. Even Marvunapp says so.
But you'll notice prior to this, the Watcher explained that he was in trouble because he allowed the LL to exploit his viewing device and his viewing device was about to be taken away from him.
He could have rectified the problem himself but he was bound by his oath and needed Quasar do to it.
All this was stated on panel.
The following is conjecture :
For all we know the LT or Time Keepers allowed Uatu leeway to do what he needed to do to get the LL from 616 back, including entering that sealed universe. Uatu couldn't because of his oath and let Quasar go in his place.
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