Top Ten Sith

I'd put pre orbalisk bane below vader and why did you put DE sidious above sidious?? They are the same person.

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
Because Bane is above Caedus and from what I've heard Kun is ridiculously powerful.

Because he is fantastic? He is better than Dooku (who has a boatload of accolades) in either of his incarnations, and your list is whack:

1. Forget Revan. I refuse (on principle) to consider him.
2. I don't know anything about Andeddu
3. What has Muur done?
4. Ragnos is similarly unknown (like Revan)
5. Nadd is as big a blank for me as Kun.

2. She has one technique, which Vader [i]should take, and if not, definitely Dooku. There's no need for a A>B>C>A triangle on the list.
3. I don't read comix. Feats?

Put simply: VADER ROX. Also: he is powerful enough to warrant a place in the upper tiers. I don't know enough about Ragnos, Nadd, Muur or Andeddu to place them, so I went with what I knew. What was safe. [/B]

No, vader isn't.

Respond to my rebuttal please.

And where, DS, exactly would you lump Vader?

11? 12?

That's a little low... Vader is easily in the top ten

Andeddu
Sith Emperor
Traya

And the Sith Emporer is greater also!! Heck he may not even exist.

Traya's far more knowledgable... But her force drain technique won't work on Vader as he learned to protect himself from it during the Clone Wars.

Originally posted by ares834
That's a little low... Vader is easily in the top ten

What has Anededdu done that puts him above Vader...Put his soul in his holocron or getting his ass whooped by Wyyrlok.

Traya's far more knowledgable... But her force drain technique won't work on Vader as he learned to protect himself from it during the Clone Wars.

Again...What? When? He has no defense for it.

Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
The fact that his skills have atrophied, yet he was still powerful as hell with his illusions, should count.

Um..What? He exists.

Again...What? When? He has no defense for it.

vader withstood galens ssvageta sacrifice blow up thing aboard the ds infact i dont think the blast phased him or the emperor id say his force shield can withstand trayas assaults.

fas for ragnos revan and sith emperor tell me what can they do to beat vader in a one on one? what have they accomplished as combatants that would measure up to vader? because last i knew they canonically have nothing

i r afrayd im gunna haff 2 interfear now

Poppunker
fas for ragnos revan and sith emperor tell me what can they do to beat vader in a one on one? what have they accomplished as combatants that would measure up to vader? because last i knew they canonically have nothing

I'll give you the Sith Emperor; we know absolutely jack about him other than that he's the commanding authority of a vast Sith war machine and that he has somehow used the Force to protract his life. Interesting, but nothing even insofar as context to suggest that he's "uber l33t" with the Force. Perhaps in time, we'll know more. 'Til DS can provide the goods with him, we'll simply chalk it up to "STFU, you have no idea."

As for Ragnos? Well, we're going to have to go down an alternate route. As someone who argued against the entirety of RagnosUpMyAss, Incorporated for well over a year, I understand that we don't exactly have a lot to measure the man up against his rivals in terms of combat feats, which makes it very difficult for us to pinpoint with any accuracy as to how powerful he truly is.

But we do know that he was the most powerful, the unchallenged ruler in a time that the Sith were at their height in terms of Force-assisted technology and numbers; a time that included the likes of Naga Sadow and Ludo Kressh. His spirit was also powerful enough to stop a furious duel between Kun and Qel-Droma. And a certain accolade accredits him as being "the most powerful of the most powerful" of the ancient Sith Empire.

I'd say that's more than enough to suggest that he was seriously badass, even in the grand scheme of things. Does this make him "the most powerful Sith evar!!1!oneone!"... no. But it does mean that he's probably top tier.

Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
The fact that his skills have atrophied, yet he was still powerful as hell with his illusions, should count.

Um..What? He exists.

Again...What? When? He has no defense for it.

Originally posted by Wolverine2179
I'd put pre orbalisk bane below vader and why did you put DE sidious above sidious?? They are the same person.

You would? Don't his Orbalisks make it almost impossible to kill him? And it's true that the Palpatines are the same person but still, Dark Empire Sidious is so powerful, I thought he had to be on the list.

Originally posted by ares834
When has it ever been stated that Sith Spirits lose power over time... And Wyyrlok tore through his illusions like confetti.

For all we know, he may be a lie propagated by the Dark Council in order to keep power.

In the Clone Wars Video game Anakin learned how to defend himself against the Dark Reaper which drains the force/life force from its victims... Sound familiar. [/B]

Unless the properties of a machine are similar to the properties of a force user, this is another retarded point.

Originally posted by DarthDaniel1001
You would? Don't his Orbalisks make it almost impossible to kill him? And it's true that the Palpatines are the same person but still, Dark Empire Sidious is so powerful, I thought he had to be on the list.

Originally posted by Gideon
i r afrayd im gunna haff 2 interfear now

I'll give you the Sith Emperor; we know absolutely jack about him other than that he's the commanding authority of a vast Sith war machine and that he has somehow used the Force to protract his life. Interesting, but nothing even insofar as context to suggest that he's "uber l33t" with the Force. Perhaps in time, we'll know more. 'Til DS can provide the goods with him, we'll simply chalk it up to "STFU, you have no idea."

As for Ragnos? Well, we're going to have to go down an alternate route. As someone who argued against the entirety of RagnosUpMyAss, Incorporated for well over a year, I understand that we don't exactly have a lot to measure the man up against his rivals in terms of combat feats, which makes it very difficult for us to pinpoint with any accuracy as to how powerful he truly is.

But we do know that he was the most powerful, the unchallenged ruler in a time that the Sith were at their height in terms of Force-assisted technology and numbers; a time that included the likes of Naga Sadow and Ludo Kressh. His spirit was also powerful enough to stop a furious duel between Kun and Qel-Droma. And a certain accolade accredits him as being "the most powerful of the most powerful" of the ancient Sith Empire.

I'd say that's more than enough to suggest that he was seriously badass, even in the grand scheme of things. Does this make him "the most powerful Sith evar!!1!oneone!"... no. But it does mean that he's probably top tier.

either way since we cant prove where ragnos stands especially in a battle he is an unkown and though i agree he is top teir i cant put him over vader since too much is unkown and his power is all inferred we have nothing substantial.

Originally posted by Dr McBeefington

Fantastic in what aspect exactly? Lol

And being evenly matched with galen marek until he caught vader off guard and "pawned" him.

Originally posted by Dr McBeefington

2. He's survived for G-d knows how long. Maybe it's premature to put him in the category but the guy was clearly powerful.

3. Engineer the raghoul plague? Cheat death? Using Morne's body to force lightning everybody? He told Krayt that he's killed sith vastly superior to him.

Originally posted by Dr McBeefington

4. Yet what is known is enough to put him in the top 5.

Lets see, ragnos getting his ass handed to him by a jedi knight, ragnos and being superior to a bunch of sith lords whose only demonstration of the force was force levitating a brick with the aid the amulets on a dark side empowered world.

Wow ragnos is so ub3r.

But seriously, we know he is powerful, but HOW powerful is conpletely inconclusive to even put into the top 10 lsit.

Originally posted by Dr McBeefington

One technique that renders Vader useless. There is of course also force lightning. And please, you've played KOTOR 2. She's vastly knowledgable in the force.

And wow she has lightning, funny how vader just tanked mareks lightning and didn't get killed at all despite his weakness to electricity.

So anybody with lightning is vastly superior to vader, what about mighella? Oh damn she must be able so sit her ass on vader.

Originally posted by Dr McBeefington

No, vader isn't.

Originally posted by mattatom
This is untrue Bane almost killed himself with his own Force Lightening, there are gaps at his wrists his ankles and his neck so n he's invincible just hard to kill.

I know, I said almost invincible. But OK

Here is my List based on Power and Saber Skill plus total Awesomeness

1 - Palpatine - Dueled Yoda and Defeated Yoda...enough said...

2 - Caedus - One of my person favorite Sith He is just as Power as Luke in Sabers almost as powerful as Luke at the Force he Killed Mara Jade , Defeated Kyle Katarn and killed two or three Jedi at the same time burnt Kasshyk to the ground Forsook his Family for his Beliefs and had an extremely High resistance to Pain....Hot Damn...

3 - Galen Marek - I should Pimp slap you all for disregarding this man. Lets see. He killed Shaak Ti , defeated Rahm Kota , Defeated EMPEROR PALPATINE THE SAME MAN THAT DEFEATED YODA, Defeated DARTH VADER , Killed Kazdan Paratus the man who kept a Legion of Droids online with the FORCE and Started the Rebel Alliance even though some of these feats were done when he was a Jedi . Rahm Kota , Shaak Ti and Kazdan Paratus was when he was a Sith so I give him Props for that.

4 - Darth Vader - A Tragic Story , God-Like Pilot , Saber Brute , Force Master (almost) , Destroyer of the Jedi Order , Hunter of Jedi , The Emperor's Iron Fist , The Unknown Enforcer , The Emperor's Envoy , and possible Sith'ari (other than Bane) .... he ... just .... plain ... rocks ...

5 - Darth Bane - Master of the Dark Side , Forger of the Rule of Two , Purger of the Sith , Saber Legend , Force Legend , Betrayer , Mastermind of the Jedi Purge and Keeper of Sith Secrets.

6 - Darth Maul - The Best Sith Apprentice ever Known , Deadly Assassin ... Maul ... Awesome ... Plain and Simple.

7 - Darth Revan - Strategic Mastermind , War Hero , Saber Legend , Force Legend , an Actual Legend , The Perfect Leader

Defeated EMPEROR PALPATINE

Not quite.

Originally posted by Wolverine2179
Tk, choking xizor over a hologram(aka millions of light years away, a feat also done by nadd with force push and your so fond of him being powerful because of this).

And being evenly matched with galen marek until he caught vader off guard and "pawned" him.

Wow and despite doing absolutely nothing with the force, he clearly is above vader? Hurray for logic!

Lets see, ragnos getting his ass handed to him by a jedi knight, ragnos and being superior to a bunch of sith lords whose only demonstration of the force was force levitating a brick with the aid the amulets on a dark side empowered world.

But seriously, we know he is powerful, but HOW powerful is conpletely inconclusive to even put into the top 10 lsit.

Oooh one technique that killed 3 no named jedi(maybe save for kavar who was more of a saber duelist than a force beast) means she is going to kill a beast in the force(one that destroyed superstructures on kashykk, ragdolled a jedi that tore a space station apart and sent it in to critical condition and even at one point nearly killed galen marek in the final duel(sp?)).

And wow she has lightning, funny how vader just tanked mareks lightning and didn't get killed at all despite his weakness to electricity.

DS
The same Ragnos that Luke and the entire academy feared.

You were doing so well, but I strongly caution you from slanting the truth like this.

Edit,

DS
Prove Marek's (I'm 19 years old)lightning is comparable to Traya's.

And this?

Age is not a prerequisite for power. Marek is clearly a highly accomplished and incredibly advanced combatant.