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Rage.Of.Olympus
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While Thor was relying mostly on instinct, when he directly tapped into it, he got a huge boost in power. Even while contained his strength was growing rapidly.

Though I have serious doubts he was doing this during the entire time it was in his possession. If he was, I think he would have easily killed the Infinity Watch from the get go. Would have probably beaten Thanos pretty easily as well.


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That was the only thing that used to make me believe that Thor was amped from the gem at the time. I thought it was almost ridiculous how easily he put down surfer. But its nothing that he hadn't really already done.

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So let it be known Thor >>>>>>> Surfer. And nothing shown after this can revoke that.


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Thor was a beast in his pseudo Warriors Madness!

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A non-holding back Thor is a Low Trans character IMHO...


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That was the only thing that used to make me believe that Thor was amped from the gem at the time. I thought it was almost ridiculous how easily he put down surfer. But its nothing that he hadn't really already done.

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So let it be known Thor >>>>>>> Surfer. And nothing shown after this can revoke that.


Who was Thor talking about when he was saying the Mightiest beneath me...he should dispose of him? Was he talking about Drax?


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Who was Thor talking about when he was saying the Mightiest beneath me...he should dispose of him? Was he talking about Drax?


He was talking about Surfer; he made the comment right after he dropped the Surfer with that Mjolnir strike...


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He was talking about Surfer; he made the comment right after he dropped the Surfer with that Mjolnir strike...


But he was standing above Drax though and he also said "beneath his feat".


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I assumed he was talking about the whole lot (Strange, Warlock, Surfer, Drax).


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Well he had already dropped Drax earlier and didnt say anything like that...

He didnt make the comment until after the Surfer fell...


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Your first post doesn't make sense.
What doesn't make sense ?
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Thanos was hurt by gun lasers and was reduced to a skeleton by antimatter blasts and also knocked around by a giant dog. Gotcha. Let's discredit that Thanos was weakened or weaker than a full powered Thanos...I want to use all of his showings. Odin would still merk him since he has done so in the past and Tyrant would make Thanos retreat like he did in the past as well. Let's not forget about a weakened maker koing him...that can happen again as well. Two can play this game.[/B]
Incorrect. Thanos wasn't fazed at all until he was weakened by the mindlock and the cc blast. You are trying to excuse Hulk showings while bringing up other Thor showings absent the mindset but when I discuss Hulk doing the same thing you did you cry and sob.

Baseless speculation. Odin never defeated Thanos and neither did Tyrant, speck. Thanos dominated maker and easily bested a cube being. Hulk gets ko'd by snakes. Snakes in a Hulk comic !!
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Thor snuck attack Rulk just like you claim Maker surprised Thanos ((after the ko). Stop being a hypocrite quanny. In a face to face fight, an amped Thor lost to a Rulk that wasn't in the middle of a fight between a top tier Savage Hulk and by a Rulk that wasn't overheating.
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Irrelevant as it wasn't blood and thunder Thor. Thor though dominated Rulk and didn't need 30 rematches to figure out how to beat him.

Thanos easily bested her just like Thor easily bested Rulk but neither showing has a lick of anything to do with this thread.

Hulk won because of Thor's help. Awful.
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I agree, bfr is a win...that was a good option for Thor. If Thanos fought WBH, that would be a good option for him as well.

Strange got beat to sleep by Hulk. Stop making excuses for people that lost to Hulk. Strange with an amp got worked...TWICE. To bad for that finger..lol.

Let me help you out Quan...I am always here to help the people that are not knowledged enough. Learn and pay attention.
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So you admit Thor beat Nul. great.

Thanos doesn't need to bfr he deals with universal problems he doesn't involve himself in a neverending cycle of death.

That isn't the point Strange's power can easily best the Hulk. Hulk had to outsmart him to beat him but power for power Strange can kill him with one twitch. Weak.

Carver, you can barely formulate a complete sentence so help yourself.
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Hulk and She Rulk collides.

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Everything around them are exploding, the planet is being turned to dust...Heralds are melting...look at Hulk and She Rulk...not even a scratch.[/B]
Yes, and they die moments later. Congrats. They all die.

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After all of this...Hulk stands on the edge of a cliff wishing everyone to come back to life. He is still in Super Saiyan mode...tanked all of it (which was shown in my scan).

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The dialog made it clear that the dead will be brought back to life...to bad Hulk wasn't part of that. [/B]
No, he died along with them all.

Hulk along with them all die and go through the same process all over again.
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Now let's get to Rulk beating Hulk.

Rulk tries absorbing WWH (look at the dialog between both Savage Hulk and WWH). Rulk states "I took your power before...WWH tells him "you can't handle my power" and he FAILS at draining WWH.

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Do I have to post what Rulk draining Savage Hulk since you've read the comic...lol? [/B]
When does it state that it's WW Hulk here and not savage ?

Show me. I have the comic so please tell me where it states ww hulk, noob.


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Let me post it anyways since you haven't read the comic. He succeeds at draining SAVAGE Hulk (look at the dialog, SAVAGE HULK). Read some Hulk.


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I have read it but point out to me the difference.


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The difference is clear Quan. One is talking like a 2 year old and the other has banner intellect. Concession accepted Quan...ill.done debating against you.


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The difference is clear Quan. One is talking like a 2 year old and the other has banner intellect. Concession accepted Quan...ill.done debating against you.
It doesn't even matter you act as if it's ok to argue against Thor without the same mindset but unfair to apply the same line of thinking to the Hulk. Concede to me.


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It doesn't even matter you act as if it's ok to argue against Thor without the same mindset but unfair to apply the same line of thinking to the Hulk. Concede to me.


Why continue to argue with someone that ignore onpanel evidence when its right there in their faces. How is the WORLD will Hulk wish everyone back if he was dead? Common sense. How in the world can you NOT tell the difference between Savage Hulk and WWH unless you are completely ignoring onpanel evidence. I'm not going to sit here and spell everything out for you Quan. I provided proof...did my part, you can ignore onpanel proof all you want (because you hate to lose).


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Why continue to argue with someone that ignore onpanel evidence when its right there in their faces. How is the WORLD will Hulk wish everyone back if he was dead? Common sense. How in the world can you NOT tell the difference between Savage Hulk and WWH unless you are completely ignoring onpanel evidence. I'm not going to sit here and spell everything out for you Quan. I provided proof...did my part, you can ignore onpanel proof all you want (because you hate to lose).
The cycle repeats itself over and over again.

Rulk killed a Hulk who had his intelligence with a spear. By your logic that was WW Hulk. laughing out loud

You haven't proven anything you just reiterated your points over and over again.

Thor defeated Surfer and Warlock. Who did HOTM Hulk beat that rivals that ?


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The cycle repeats itself over and over again.

Rulk killed a Hulk who had his intelligence with a spear. By your logic that was WW Hulk. laughing out loud

You haven't proven anything you just reiterated your points over and over again.

Thor defeated Surfer and Warlock. Who did HOTM Hulk beat that rivals that ?


Rulk killed a magically enhanced Hulk..not WWH. You didn't read the comic did you Quan? That was still Savage Hulk.

Hulk killed Armaggedon, the same person who defeated the person you brought up that had Merged Hulk as a partner...Surfer.

Hulk killed Bi Beast...the same person who over powered Thor twice in a contest of strength.

He beat Wendigo...the same person who fought Savage Hulk (a Thor villian) and Sasquash at the same time and held his own.

He beat the Mindless ones...an entire race. The same race that gave Dormammu and Classic Strange hell in a prolong fight.

He defeated all these being without touching them.

Game set and done.


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Rulk killed a magically enhanced Hulk..not WWH. You didn't read the comic did you Quan? That was still Savage Hulk.

Hulk killed Armaggedon, the same person who defeated the person you brought up that had Merged Hulk as a partner...Surfer.

Hulk killed Bi Beast...the same person who over powered Thor twice in a contest of strength.

He beat Wendigo...the same person who fought Savage Hulk (a Thor villian) and Sasquash at the same time and held his own.

He beat the Mindless ones...an entire race. The same race that gave Dormammu and Classic Strange hell in a prolong fight.

He defeated all these being without touching them.

Game set and done.
Hulk kept his strength and retained his intelligence. Hulk still died. You said if Hulk is intelligent he is WW Hulk but then abandoned the logic directly thereafter. I read the comic but destroyed your reasoning as to the difference between the two.

Arm used Surfer's own energies to defeat him. Thor crushed the Surfer and warlock after beating up BrB as well. Far more impressive than dying over and over again.

Thor is more powerful than he is strong so what is that supposed to prove ? LOL.

So ?

Context.

Hulk died. He went mad and fought and died and fought again and again.

Thor is far more credible based on what he's done as opposed to what you are trying to give the Hulk credit for.


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Hulk kept his strength and retained his intelligence. Hulk still died. You said if Hulk is intelligent he is WW Hulk but then abandoned the logic directly thereafter. I read the comic but destroyed your reasoning as to the difference between the two.

Arm used Surfer's own energies to defeat him. Thor crushed the Surfer and warlock after beating up BrB as well. Far more impressive than dying over and over again.

Thor is more powerful than he is strong so what is that supposed to prove ? LOL.

So ?

Context.

Hulk died. He went mad and fought and died and fought again and again.

Thor is far more credible based on what he's done as opposed to what you are trying to give the Hulk credit for.


Atmaggedon beat Surfer and he had a partner with him and still lost. Just like you said, a win is a win. Hulk killed a person that defeated Surfer without even touching him.

That was Savage Hulk Quan. Learn the difference between Savage Hulk and WWH.

Bi Beast gave Thor a fight. Get over it.

How can Hulk die and make wishes at the same time? Think Quan...you are not good at this.

The context is...Strange and Dormammu couldn't beat the Mindless one and had to trap them behind a dimensional barrier to stop them from tearing up Dorm Dimension.

Show me Hulk dying because I can show you everyone pointing out Hulk made a wish to bring everyone back to life after the explosion. I can also show you Hulk being in the heart of the blast without a scratch while everyone else was melting.

Stop wasting my time Quan.


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Atmaggedon beat Surfer and he had a partner with him and still lost. Just like you said, a win is a win. Surfer killed a person that defeated Surfer without even touching him.

That was Savage Hulk Quan. Learn the difference between Savage Hulk and WWH.

Bi Beast gave Thor a fight. Get over it.

How can Hulk die and make wishes at the same time? Think Quan...you are not good at this.

The context is...Strange and Dormammu couldn't beat the Mindless one and had to trap them behind a dimensional barrier to stop them from tearing up Dorm Dimension.

Show me Hulk dying because I can show you everyone pointing out Hulk made a wish to bring everyone back to life after the explosion. I can also show you Hulk being in the heart of the blast without a scratch while everyone else was melting.

Stop wasting my time Quan.
There's context to every win unlike you context I embrace while you seem to avoid it .

You said the difference is intelligence and I brought up Rulk killing an intelligent Hulk yet that doesn't count either. You're biased.

Bi Beast didn't fight blood and thunder Thor. Airwalker gave Thor a fight until he quit holding back and he destroyed him.

His wish had already been made to fight die and fight again and die. Are you really this intellectually challenged ?

The context is Hulk died. He fought and died again.

The comic stated they all died. Just because it isn't in a drawing doesn't mean we ignore the words on the pages.

Hulk's showings don't stand up to Thor's.

Thor wins.


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There's context to every win unlike you context I embrace while you seem to avoid it .

You said the difference is intelligence and I brought up Rulk killing an intelligent Hulk yet that doesn't count either. You're biased.

Bi Beast didn't fight blood and thunder Thor. Airwalker gave Thor a fight until he quit holding back and he destroyed him.

His wish had already been made to fight die and fight again and die. Are you really this intellectually challenged ?

The context is Hulk died. He fought and died again.

The comic stated they all died. Just because it isn't in a drawing doesn't mean we ignore the words on the pages.

Hulk's showings don't stand up to Thor's.

Thor wins.


You embrace when it fits you, not when it goes against your point.

You brought up Savage Hulk again...a Hulk that was shocked he can talk.

Bi Beast is a top tier which is my point.

Show me Hulk dying.

When did the comic state everyone died?

In your opinion it doesn't stand.


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You embrace when it fits you, not when it goes against your point.

You brought up Savage Hulk again...a Hulk that was shocked he can talk.

Bi Beast is a top tier which is my point.

Show me Hulk dying.

When did the comic state everyone died?

In your opinion it doesn't stand.
That's incorrect I always embrace the context.

Hulk was intelligent and was killed by Rulk.

Thor wrecked the Surfer and Warlock. Surfer is an elite top tier which is more impressive.

You can't comprehend the dialogue that's why you aren't taken as a serious debater.

In the comic.

Thor is more powerful his power beats the Hulk. Thor beats the Hulk and beats him again. His wish just came true all over again.


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