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Originally posted by samishe
No, ask anyone on this thread. "Is it PIS when Batman breaks through metal door?" they'll answer "yes".
Oh, ad populem arguments.

"It's the right answer because it's the popular one"


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As i said before you guys overrate him to much.
90% of all tekken characters look weak comparing to him? roll eyes (sarcastic)


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Originally posted by samishe
No, ask anyone on this thread. "Is it PIS when Batman breaks through metal door?" they'll answer "yes".

You overrate Bats to much. 90% of all tekken characters look weak comparing to him? What the f**k? ??


he'd hand 90% of them their ass yes.. unless of course you somehow think they're more threatening than the justice league...?


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Originally posted by jinzin
he'd hand 90% of them their ass yes.. unless of course you somehow think they're more threatening than the justice league...?


Man, if you'll tell me that you took seriously all that "batman defeats JLA by himself" i'll not respect you anymore.


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not all at the same time but the guy has beat down superman time after time, beat up a demonized wonderwoman, put down aquaman in a fist fight, nearly tore off GL's ring finger, tripped flash in mid run and then escaped to the point that wally couldn't find him... the guy's crazy...


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not all at the same time but the guy has beat down superman time after time, beat up a demonized wonderwoman, put down aquaman in a fist fight, nearly tore off GL's ring finger, tripped flash in mid run and then escaped to the point that wally couldn't find him... the guy's crazy...


Batman is a badass, nobody argue with that. But whenever he beat supes he uses kriptonit or he uses PIS. HOW could his punches hurt the one who could take a nuke and not being hurt? I mean come on. Superman could move entire planet.

And still Batman is not a match for tekken characters. Not because he's weak, or not trained. That's just whole different universe where ordinary human could be on a whole different level than humans in bats universe.


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i simply dissagree.. I don't think half the tekken characters match up to a guy like "the general" but that's just me... wink


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Originally posted by jinzin
i simply dissagree.. I don't think half the tekken characters match up to a guy like "the general" but that's just me... wink


BTW Jin, do you want to join KMC Syndicate? Just for laughs, it's like community.


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the hell is it a community of?


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Originally posted by samishe
Batman is a badass, nobody argue with that. But whenever he beat supes he uses kriptonit or he uses PIS. HOW could his punches hurt the one who could take a nuke and not being hurt? I mean come on. Superman could move entire planet.

And still Batman is not a match for tekken characters. Not because he's weak, or not trained. That's just whole different universe where ordinary human could be on a whole different level than humans in bats universe.
Ah but by crossing over are the characters converted to the way they would be in the respective other world?


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the hell is it a community of?
The Syndicate is the evil characters
It's over in the Comic book section under comic book movies.

Maybe we should create a ninja society or something. lol


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the hell is it a community of?


Well, you choose one marvel or DC villian that would represent you in the syndicate. It doesn't make you to have any duties or anything.
Just membership. Group of buddies.


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Ah but by crossing over are the characters converted to the way they would be in the respective other world?


You mean how would Bats look in tekken crossover? Well it's a whole different story.


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Originally posted by samishe
You mean how would Bats look in tekken crossover? Well it's a whole different story.
Well yeah sorta.

If in the DC universe, would these cahracters that gain these powers out of pure skill still be able to?
And vice versa someone who is the most or one of the most skilled of the DCU be able to do the more impressive things in another universe?

AFter all it's been aserted many times that both batman and the Tekken or Street fighter characters are just humans...

Hell even the humans of the DBZ-verse...

Would they be as limited in a world more realistic on it's martial artists? And would these limited universe MAs be more powerful in a less restricted one?


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Originally posted by Creshosk
Well yeah sorta.

If in the DC universe, would these cahracters that gain these powers out of pure skill still be able to?
And vice versa someone who is the most or one of the most skilled of the DCU be able to do the more impressive things in another universe?

AFter all it's been aserted many times that both batman and the Tekken or Street fighter characters are just humans...

Hell even the humans of the DBZ-verse...

Would they be as limited in a world more realistic on it's martial artists? And would these limited universe MAs be more powerful in a less restricted one?


I'm sure if Bruce would appear in Tekken game they'd make him on pair with other characters. But such things always happen in crossovers. Like when Venom appeared in DC comix.

Besides that Mishimas've been said to be not normal humans even comparing to other tekken characters.


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So what yoe're saying is that Shredder can't have the robot suit?


Feel free to quote me when i made an explicit comment about Shredder not being in his robot suit.

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I'll have to make a note of that, and impede Ironman in the future to fight only as Tony Stark...


eek! And now you just compared him to ironman....

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Or we could bot hstop grasping at damned straws and drop irrealevent points.


Or we shouldn't because it exists in what he posted

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Because of the distribusion of force?


Oh boy, another physics teacher to do the job. But i guess since Jinzin already mentioned and compared Heihachi to a normal 80 year old man, i guess their type could survive those through the distribution of force then.

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You know what it's obvious with your insisted removal of the exo-armor Shredder has to be handicapped for Heihachi to stand a chance. So on even level grounds Shredder would win.


It's obvious. See my first line telling you to quote me. You obviously haven't read the exchange and been asked to assist your friend here.


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oh so it's oky for Hiehachi to produce super human feats in spite of being human? bu not for anyone in the TMNT verse?....




Well considering i never said anything remotely resembling that claim

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well... aren't we the little hypocrite?

Anyway's you missed the point... hiehachi MAY be able to produce feats of superhuman levels but his stamina still gives out because he's HUMAN... shredder's doesn't plain and simple.


again those trains I'm always talking about.. they just left the station all over again....


Your train was deluded and biased so i boarded another one.

And of course your claim to his stamina is left without evidence.




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yes a degree.... much better then say... experience... Just like officers who've spent 4 years in ROCT are going to be better prepared for battle than a 1 year grunt who's spent that year on the field right? And you call my logic flawed.... roll eyes (sarcastic)



Flawed? it's always been flawed. it's a fact



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Are you retarded? Is that it?... cause it's either that or you don't actually watch the show like you claim... foot mystics ARE empowered by magic, use magical AND mental (telepathic) attacks, AND have control over the earth's elements... the sword overcame all of that... The sword reacted to the armor and shredder claimed that the sword could recognize things/weapons/tools of the same like... thus the armor has some of the properties of the sword... which would explain his ability to walk through 89% of what gets thrown his way...



Once again the question:

is the armor magical in nature, resembling fire? or wind? or water? or earth? if not, then stfu. It's simple as that

Just because it works on something that specific doesn't mean it'll automatically work on another completely different subject.

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what the sword produces>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>simple concussive force as you claimed.






Again WATCH THE SHOW...in departure shredder without his armor takes on the turtles and splinter.. when he finds out Bishop is in his HQ he says and I quote "this changes everything!" he instantly kicks the bejesus out of all of them in less than 7 seconds... no joke... no armor... just shredder skill at it's finest... And the turtles[/b][/quote]

roll eyes (sarcastic) what a load of nonsense.



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you'd have to prove that first.. like cresh said you're basing that off nothing more than uneducated assumptions....


Oh boy, The professor and his assistant agreeing on something, how convenient? whistle

Uneducated assumptions? hahahaha, funniest hyprocritical shit i've heard all day.






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well..... yeah....

http://img459.imageshack.us/my.php?...injakick2wi.jpg

honestly, how long CAN you go without sticking your foot in your mouth? it's pathetic.. really....


a single martial arts sport bout to prove you this? laughing


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It would seem laughing is ALL you can do when faced against a superior argument...


Your "superior argument" = Hillarious


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don't point out the contradiction or anything just claim I've made one eand hope that that's enough...


whistle


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It was miraculous... it left him drifting into a coma like state and everyone was AMAZED he survived...


Coma, when was this "coma"

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who's big claim to fame was taking out a little team of special forces guys? pffftt.. wolveirne would have done more damage...


Come on now, don't be that bitter from your pointless stand in another thread.

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this proves what?


The feat speaks for itself. And since you provided "miraculous" in your description, why not go all the way?

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again another feat every street level and their grandma does... every time shredder hits the turtles and sends em flying they end up smashed into a wall.. hell even the elite foot can do that...


whistle ignorance is a bliss, you should thank it.

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which left him unconcious for a month and was again YES miraculous....


Which btw, no opponent of the shredder has done before.

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yes it is.. and it means there needs to have some questions answered by the tekken team but until then he's still an 80 yr old geezer who's gonna putter out against the shredhead...


Oh that's right, cause you feel it right?

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oh boy ignoring factual evidence AGAIN cuase you don't like it.. real nice...


roll eyes (sarcastic)

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that resulting explosion says different...


initial explosion?........rolling on floor laughing Funny cause P. Jack was able to do the same and that was Tekken 1-2.

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you're aware how tough cyber foot ninjas are right? TMNT>>>>>cybers...
shredder>>>TMNT... that simple.


And Heihachi > Shredder, you're right, it's that simple.

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which I can agree to..... but hundreds of them? and a swat team... AND foot elite? no... not likely....


Which Shredder hasn't done by himself nor did the turtles taking them all at the same time or without prep.


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oaky this is pathetic at this point your not even providing decent counters, you're just ignoring half of what I'm saying...

and yes the turtles did throw down with a foot army, elites, and a swat team in the streets without prep or help.. and yes they were victorious... shredder's still superior just as he is to H.....


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Last time i check, those parties/groups of people weren't fight alongside each other and treated other groups as much enemies as the turtles. And the turtles didn't won when it happened, they made a hasty retreat although they did put up a fight first.


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