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H'el pulled a Doctor Manhattan when rearranging Superboy's atoms. He has insane psionic abilities, telekinetic abilities, teleportation, and some telepathy which he demonstrated when ****ing up Cyborg's Boom Tubes.


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What resistance fts does this version of Superboy have and provide a scan.please?


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Originally posted by carver9
What resistance fts does this version of Superboy have and provide a scan.please?


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Superman's Kryptonian Biotech itself was a defense that H'el effortlessly overcomes. H'el's psionic powers far exceed Superboy's and Superboy could do a lot with his psionic abilities, such as brinking into Fortress of Solitude by disabling it's force field.


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And H'el ****ed him up in moments.

H'el is faster, more versatile, and what makes you think that WWH is so much stronger than Superman alone? What is that based off of? So far Superman has only struggled with H'el, Darkseid, and Helspont.


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So you don't have any resistance fts for Superboy? Gotcha.


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@Seven...

How powerful is that attack because a holding back Hulk was busting through Herald+ power without pause.

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I not familure with that fight, was that attack attempting to screw with his atoms like the H'el feat I put up? Energy resistance doesn't = resistance to having your atoms messed with. Just trying to see if were on the same page here.

Also what would you consider H'el's tier?


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I not familure with that fight, was that attack attempting to screw with his atoms like the H'el feat I put up? Energy resistance doesn't = resistance to having your atoms messed with. Just trying to see if were on the same page here.

Also what would you consider H'el's tier?


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@Carver, knitting his dna back together...could the Hulk at least do that? If he can figure out how to rearrange Superboy's atoms, what makes the Hulk different? Scans?

Anyway back to speed and strength;

Here he moves the Fortress of Solitude at Flash level speeds;

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I would put He'l at low trans but Hulk has resistance fts just like I have already shown in this thread.


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I would put He'l at low trans but Hulk has resistance fts just like I have already shown in this thread.


You showed durability to an energy blast Orion esque, not psionic resistance Frank Richards/Doctor Manhattan esque.


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Don't even ask.

@Carver, knitting his dna back together...could the Hulk at least do that? If he can figure out how to rearrange Superboy's atoms, what makes the Hulk different? Scans?

Anyway back to speed and strength;

Here he moves the Fortress of Solitude at Flash level speeds;

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How did He'l move them, teleportation or fight?


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Actually rereading those comics, I don't think he has TK, can teleport, or go intangible at all. He was disrupting Cyborg and the others psionically when he was making Boom Tubes.


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Originally posted by Dolos
You showed durability to an energy blast Orion esque, not psionic resistance Frank Richards/Doctor Manhattan esque.



Nooooo...I showed Hulk overcoming molecular manipulation.


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Lol, y'all are nuts. Unless H'el could battle field remove Hulk somehow, he gets wrecked in a straight up fight. It was implied that Green Scar was more powerful than freaking Umar.

Hate it, love it, call it stupid fanboy shit or what have you, but Hulk was closer to Skyfather than Herald at that point.


I seem to recall a certain thundergod handling most of what Umar had.

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Nooooo...I showed Hulk overcoming molecular manipulation.


Not from H'el.

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Originally posted by Dolos
Actually rereading those comics, I don't think he has TK, can teleport, or go intangible at all. He was disrupting Cyborg and the others psionically when he was making Boom Tubes.

Isnt this TK?
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Also looking for H'el stuff to contribute to further this thread I came across this but dont recall context. ( if any is even needed but I figure it's best to claim ignorance when I in fact am ignorant ll figured it shows durability)
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Not from H'el.
wonder why that is....


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wonder why that is....


Why?

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H'el wins.


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Why?


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