Yeah, it really undermines the clear intent of the original films, wherein Luke and Leia were supposed to be the *only* force-users left in the galaxy by the conclusion of RotJ.
The EU logic is essentially: "When Yoda died, he just said that Luke would be the last JEDI... But Ahsoka(and whoever else they want to be alive during that period) weren't technically 'Jedi' any longer, so Yoda wasn't talking about them..."
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In legends was way worse, we had dozens of other true Jedi still alive. I think around 30 we’re still around by Ep 6. Just to
Name a few: K’kruhk, Tra Saa, Empatojas Brand, Dass Jennir, Aqinos, Caryn, Minos Fel’Kona, possibly Legends Vos, Kina Ha (rare Kaminoan Jedi), Rahm Kota, Galen Marek (clone) and so on. Many of them literally joined the New Jedi order (K’kruhk, T’ra Saa, Aqinos etc) or still considered themselves Jedi
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@TW, well with the way things are going we now have Cal, Ezra and Ahsoka. Wasn't there also some other Jedi? I can't recall the name, but still floating around.
I'm sure there will be more.
It just bothers me moreso that they say that they are not Jedi, but just saying you aren't one doesn't mean that you stop being a Jedi, if one truly didn't want to be one, they wouldn't wield their lightsabers or use The Force at all, nor even want to train or guide others.
Yeah sure, I guess with the Jedi Order gone you're technically not a Jedi in an official sense....but you can apply that to even the likes of Yoda and Obi-Wan then.
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Canon and Legends both established that it was possible to be force sensitive without being descended directly from force sensitives. Legends with Outbound Flight (and the jedi holocrons containing the force-sensitive children and stuff) and Canon with TCW/Fallen Order.
That already creates problems with the original trilogy which leads you to believe that there's somehow only 2 people in the entire galaxy of who knows how many -illions of people who could become jedi and save the galaxy.
Yeah having them all say we no longer consider ourselves Jedi is kinda a cop out way to get past Yodas line to Luke in ROTJ.
Even then Ezra never gave up on being a Jedi.
As for Cal something will have to happen to him. You cant just have all these Jedi (or non Jedi lightsiders with Jedi training), not joining/helping the Rebellion or later the Resistance.
Regarding this new saber, I just remembered that in The Rise of Kylo Ren #2, Luke told Ben about a lightsaber he had once found during a past adventure:
It's not just that...but please tell me there's more of a reason to go back to Bespin other than to get back Luke's lightsaber? If not that's even more stupid.
Plus Lando specifically said that the freezing chamber wasn't meant to freeze humans, just because it worked on Han, doesn't mean it's gonna work on everyone...that easily could kill Leia.
I mean obviously it won't because plot, but still.
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