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REad this thread! It is important!

I have come under the conclusion that physics are applied in different ways in comic books.

Many of the writers are ignorant or just bias with how they write character's feats.
They have characters doing things that they shouldn't be able to do, while having characters that are capable of such feats doing simple ass weakass shit.




Post some ****ed up feats that you've witnessed in comics that shouldn't be.

I'm not talkin' about something thats alittle off, I'm talkin' about something that is just ridiculously wrong.

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The concept of sound is off, how come people going faster than the speed of sound still have a conversation with people all fine and dandy?


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Spiderman EVER having problems with lowly thugs. I mean EVER.

I know this isn't physics-related, but I just felt like throwing this in there.


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They write wolverine as not being able to do feats like punch through several feet of brickwall or kill someone with one punch.

These are feats that he is capable of, according to physics and laws of martial-arts, which he is an expert in.

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Spiderman even when holding back should never be overpowered by some thug, unless the thug is strapped like punisher or blade.


Anybody else should be down in one kick, punch, or throw.
In fact, the force of his web hitting them should knock them down.

I've seen the web shooters shoot with force to knock people into walls, then other time it shoots a man point blank and just wraps him up, yet spiderman isn't using any different enough of pressure or force when squeezing his palm, at least he doesn't seem to be using any different force.

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Wolverine vs. the Hulk should look like it did in Ennis's Confederacy of Dunces (admittedly, he was downright cruel and unfair [although it WAS funny] to Wolverine in a lot of ways otherwise, but THIS part he got totally right) ... EVERY TIME. Wolverine shouldn't even consider trying to fight the Hulk, and every time he forgets for a moment, he should be sent flying into the next state to consider the error of his ways. He should not only not be able to fight Hulk, he shouldn't even be able to ESCAPE Hulk if Hulk is after him!

Ditto for Spider-Man fighting Hulk (except Spidey should be able to escape ... just not actually fight).

Speaking of stupid Hulk defeats, the crossover where Batman kicked him in the gut and made him inhale gas was so stupid it even made the Wolverine and Spider-Man fights look good ...

The only plausible Hulk defeat by a street-leveler I can recall ever seeing was in Punisher Kills the Marvel Universe, and that's only because Frank didn't even TRY to fight Hulk. Instead, he tagged him with a transmitter from far away and just tracked him 'till he turned back into Bruce Banner. That made actual sense. But it never even happened in continuity anyway. stick out tongue


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How can someone with Level 6 strength (I.E. below 100 tons) hurt/beat characters who regularly fight other beings that can lift Kilo tons/mountains/planets, confused

Thing hurts Hulk, yet he can't lift 100 tons ? confused

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"Thing hurts Hulk, yet he can't lift 100 tons "

More accurate would be saying he cant lift as much as Hulk and the others can.

Hes strong enougt to get them the hurt tho.

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Originally posted by olympian
"Thing hurts Hulk, yet he can't lift 100 tons "

More accurate would be saying he cant lift as much as Hulk and the others can.

Hes strong enougt to get them the hurt tho.


Mate every single source of Info says he can Lift up to 100 tons. He has never really demonstrated a clear feat to suggest he can lift much more than 100 tons. This goes for Ulik, Rhino, Mr Hyde and Sandman aswell.

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Originally posted by jplatinum
They write wolverine as not being able to do feats like punch through several feet of brickwall or kill someone with one punch.

These are feats that he is capable of, according to physics and laws of martial-arts, which he is an expert in.


Err...no. Not even just to disagree with you, but Wolverine can't punch through SEVERAL FEET of BRICKWALL. My definition of several is about 7 and up. If he could, don't you think he'd just be punching through walls all the time?

And also, if he could do said feat, he'd then be able to pierce Colossus. Or at least come A LOT CLOSER to doing it than he is capable of right now.

His punches are powerful, yes. But not that powerful. The adamantium skeleton also really doesn't do anything to increase the power of his punches, they just give Wolverine the knowledge that he won't be breaking his hand anytime soon.


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Any brick fight. These guys lift tons and tons and yet don't move when hit by a like force?

Do these guys suddenly weigh as much as they can hit?


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Things like this annoy me...........

Characters able to form long coherant sentences hilst leaping through the air or being hit by a monster.
Guys like Wolverine. He would be killed in any fight against the Hulk FULL STOP.
Batman winning a fight because hes Batman.
Aunt may pushing 3425536776767 years old
Guys coming back from the dead 12 times.
when a comic has 80 variant covers, thats just money-makin at its creulest form.
Women are all drawn incredibly slim. (Note Im not complaining bout that one)
A bad guy/girl is allowed on a hero team after being nice to them on one mission. Come on Heros be suspicious for cryin out loud.


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And also, if he could do said feat, he'd then be able to pierce Colossus. Or at least come A LOT CLOSER to doing it than he is capable of right now.
I'm not sure about that, we don't know the properties of his metal.So even if you were to make Wolverine able to punch through brick like real world martial artists can do, he still may not be able to hurt collosus.


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Originally posted by jplatinum
I have come under the conclusion that physics are applied in different ways in comic books.

Many of the writers are ignorant or just bias with how they write character's feats.
They have characters doing things that they shouldn't be able to do, while having characters that are capable of such feats doing simple ass weakass shit.




Post some ****ed up feats that you've witnessed in comics that shouldn't be.

I'm not talkin' about something thats alittle off, I'm talkin' about something that is just ridiculously wrong.


Mate I could go on forever , but i have something that slightly resembles a life big grin

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A bad guy/girl is allowed on a hero team after being nice to them on one mission. Come on Heros be suspicious for cryin out loud.
That actually varies from character to character. Some will accept a decision begrudgingly because the others did. Some will up and up leave the team.

And it's not like villans that turn good always betray the team. Look at rouge and as so far Emma Frost. Both of these were villians that menaced the team. But you certainly wouldn't say that Rogue was a threat now would you?


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i think ppl are getting off base we are talking about when the writer try to apply physics. what you all are talking about is ppl's feats no matter how ridiculous they are, which i agree but mine is this

Iron Man's armor shouldnt be possoible.....not the armor itself but all its fancy bells and whistles....for xample it would require an immense energy source....IMMENSE, to not only shoot repulsar blasts in the first place but fly, hover,maintain his body's homeostasis, giant force fields(which he can finally do now), have a wireless communication to the net and his data bases back at his HQ...no matter where in the world he is, and have a mini computer thats more powerful and have more memory than any comupter in the world(about 6 terabytes..... if you print 1 terabyte of info it would require enuff paper to stretch from here to the moon...literally..yeah thats a lot)and lastly dump all his energy in a huge nova-like blast, and able to restore power from solar energy in a few hours. NO F'ING WAY! i dont care if he has 100 nuclear reactors in there all that is just not possible

and i might as well throw in Dr. Doom too cuz ever since the Secret Wars, and i know it hasnt been retconned, Doom's armor was powered by a mini blackhole, about the size of a quarter, that was housed in his armor's ankle......WTF!!!! doesnt marvel realize that a black hole even the size of a pin head could destroy the whole world? seeing as how comparatively a reg. sized black hole can esaily destroy an entire galaxy


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i think ppl are getting off base we are talking about when the writer try to apply physics. what you all are talking about is ppl's feats no matter how ridiculous they are, which i agree but mine is this

Iron Man's armor shouldnt be possoible.....not the armor itself but all its fancy bells and whistles....for xample it would require an immense energy source....IMMENSE, to not only shoot repulsar blasts in the first place but fly, hover,maintain his body's homeostasis, giant force fields(which he can finally do now), have a wireless communication to the net and his data bases back at his HQ...no matter where in the world he is, and have a mini computer thats more powerful and have more memory than any comupter in the world(about 6 terabytes..... if you print 1 terabyte of info it would require enuff paper to stretch from here to the moon...literally..yeah thats a lot)and lastly dump all his energy in a huge nova-like blast, and able to restore power from solar energy in a few hours. NO F'ING WAY! i dont care if he has 100 nuclear reactors in there all that is just not possible

and i might as well throw in Dr. Doom too cuz ever since the Secret Wars, and i know it hasnt been retconned, Doom's armor was powered by a mini blackhole, about the size of a quarter, that was housed in his armor's ankle......WTF!!!! doesnt marvel realize that a black hole even the size of a pin head could destroy the whole world? seeing as how comparatively a reg. sized black hole can esaily destroy an entire galaxy
How do you even get power from something that absorbs light?

A blsck hole isn't a valid energy source. . Secret wars you say? That story seems to be so full of PIS it rivals Onslaught. . .


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That actually varies from character to character. Some will accept a decision begrudgingly because the others did. Some will up and up leave the team.

And it's not like villans that turn good always betray the team. Look at rouge and as so far Emma Frost. Both of these were villians that menaced the team. But you certainly wouldn't say that Rogue was a threat now would you?


true but now you have said that, don't you think that would be a cool storyline? Rogue goes all.....well Rogue. lol


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explain how dd survives punches from someone who lifts 100 tons while he can lift only 2


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