KMC Forums

 
  REGISTER HERE TO JOIN IN! - It's easy and it's free!
Already a member? Log-in!
 
 
Home » Star Wars » Star Wars: Literature & Expanded Universe » Who is the most powerful in the force?


Who is the most powerful in the force?
Started by: Stigma

Forum Jump:
Post New Thread    Post A Reply
Pages (2): [1] 2 »   Last Thread   Next Thread
Author
Thread
Stigma
Herald of the Judgement

Registered: Jul 2013
Location: Poland


 

Who is the most powerful in the force?

If you were to rank them from the strongest to the weakest in the force, how would that list look like?

Caedus, Plagueis, Starkiller, Vitiate, Yoda.

Last edited by Stigma on Jan 26th, 2015 at 08:35 PM

Old Post Jan 26th, 2015 08:32 PM
Click here to Send Stigma a Private Message Find more posts by Stigma Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
The_Tempest
Senior Member

Registered: Sep 2012
Location: United States


 

In terms of natural strength in the Force?

Caedus/Starkiller
Plagueis
Yoda/Vitiate

Old Post Jan 26th, 2015 08:40 PM
Click here to Send The_Tempest a Private Message Find more posts by The_Tempest Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Stigma
Herald of the Judgement

Registered: Jul 2013
Location: Poland


 

quote: (post)
Originally posted by The_Tempest
In terms of natural strength in the Force?

Yes, no augmentations, amps and prep times.
Also, take into the account only realized power, not potential.

Old Post Jan 26th, 2015 08:42 PM
Click here to Send Stigma a Private Message Find more posts by Stigma Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
NewGuy01
perpetual

Registered: Jan 2013
Location: USA


 

Would you count the power Vitiate gained from gobbling Nathema to be "natural"?


__________________

Old Post Jan 26th, 2015 09:46 PM
Click here to Send NewGuy01 a Private Message Find more posts by NewGuy01 Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
ChaosTheory123
Bored with sanity

Registered: Jan 2015
Location: Hell


 

quote: (post)
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Would you count the power Vitiate gained from gobbling Nathema to be "natural"?


While not originally his, through this ritual he did basically become the Star Wars version of Kefka Palazzo. Where as Kefka absorbed the powers of the Warring Triad for himself, Vitiate absorbed so much force energy from Nathema and the 8000 Sith Lords of his that he turned it into a void that atomizes organic life.

It's not exactly like it became a temporary power up, so I'd count it myself.

Old Post Jan 26th, 2015 10:52 PM
Click here to Send ChaosTheory123 a Private Message Find more posts by ChaosTheory123 Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
carthage
PLEASE PROTECT ME STONES

Registered: Mar 2014
Location: THE BLACK LODGE


 

Darth Bane


__________________
"Happiness is a lie. Life is horror. The light is always dying all across the universe. The last star will flicker out someday, when it does, all that remains is shadow. And I will be its king!"'-Amahl Farouk

Old Post Jan 26th, 2015 11:47 PM
Click here to Send carthage a Private Message Find more posts by carthage Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
ILS
Restricted

Registered: Oct 2014
Location: Korriban

Account Restricted


 

quote: (post)
Originally posted by carthage
Darth Bane
thumb up


__________________

“The galaxy must experience the pain of death and the rapture of rebirth as I have. I will bring chaos. It is time for war.

Old Post Jan 27th, 2015 12:06 AM
Click here to Send ILS a Private Message Find more posts by ILS Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Fated Xtasy
Kami

Registered: Mar 2014
Location: ???????


 

Do.you mean all force users in the mythos? Or just among those you've listed? If it's the former then the Father/Ones>All.


__________________

Old Post Jan 27th, 2015 01:11 AM
Click here to Send Fated Xtasy a Private Message Find more posts by Fated Xtasy Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
The Immortal Emperor

Registered: Aug 2013
Location: The Eternal Throne


 

Assuming the Nathema ritual is being accounted for:

Vitiate
Yoda
Caedus
Plagueis
Starkiller

though admittedly my rating of Starkiller is hazy, given his insane feats.


__________________

”You presume limits to my power. There are none.”

Old Post Jan 27th, 2015 01:15 AM
Click here to Send XSUPREMEXSKILLZ a Private Message Find more posts by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
ChaosTheory123
Bored with sanity

Registered: Jan 2015
Location: Hell


 

quote: (post)
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Assuming the Nathema ritual is being accounted for:

Vitiate
Yoda
Caedus
Plagueis
Starkiller

though admittedly my rating of Starkiller is hazy, given his insane feats.


Nah, I'd say you have it about right for the characters I have knowledge about (I know **** all about Caedus and Yoda and Vitiate can probably be considered interchangeable depending on how seriously you take his strongest Jedi quote vs Sidious as meaning ever up to that point IIRC)

Starkiller's best feats (coming to mind, that'd be his clone powering that cannon to tear apart that ISD) don't really top things like passively altering the climate of Naboo (Plagueis) and even for the length of time his ritual took, the amount of energy Vitiate stripped from Nathema is ****ing huge when you consider what standing on the planet even 1000 years later does to a person (sub-atomically rip them apart)

Old Post Jan 27th, 2015 01:22 AM
Click here to Send ChaosTheory123 a Private Message Find more posts by ChaosTheory123 Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
NewGuy01
perpetual

Registered: Jan 2013
Location: USA


 

Starkiller blew half of a 300-meter long frigate into "a billion pieces" with a Force Repulse, per the novel.

I wonder what that would calc to by your scales.

Anyway, I'd consider Starkiller a more powerful Force user than Plagueis, and probably Caedus too; but his mastery and usage of it is lesser.


__________________

Old Post Jan 27th, 2015 01:31 AM
Click here to Send NewGuy01 a Private Message Find more posts by NewGuy01 Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
ChaosTheory123
Bored with sanity

Registered: Jan 2015
Location: Hell


 

Probably less than what I got for TKing the ISD if the thing didn't have shields up

Kind of helps to know the thing was already traveling around terminal velocity for an absurdly high KE value though

You'd be surprised what sort of power it requires to change the Hydrosphere of a planet even one degree though, not that I blame you for not knowing.

Where I normally post, we analyze this shit to death for fun and all, an weather manipulation is far more obscure than massive explosions :maybe

Old Post Jan 27th, 2015 01:34 AM
Click here to Send ChaosTheory123 a Private Message Find more posts by ChaosTheory123 Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Revanchiste
Senior Member

Registered: Oct 2014
Location: France/Rezée (near Nantes)


 

quote: (post)
Originally posted by The_Tempest
In terms of natural strength in the Force?

Caedus/Starkiller
Plagueis
Yoda/Vitiate


From natural strengh there is Revan but the years spend on Trayus academmy in the rest of the galaxy his knowledge of the star map let him a vaste knowledge included sith alchemmy... So....

Old Post Jan 27th, 2015 05:52 AM
Click here to Send Revanchiste a Private Message Find more posts by Revanchiste Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Revanchiste
Senior Member

Registered: Oct 2014
Location: France/Rezée (near Nantes)


 

quote: (post)
Originally posted by ChaosTheory123
Probably less than what I got for TKing the ISD if the thing didn't have shields up

Kind of helps to know the thing was already traveling around terminal velocity for an absurdly high KE value though

You'd be surprised what sort of power it requires to change the Hydrosphere of a planet even one degree though, not that I blame you for not knowing.

Where I normally post, we analyze this shit to death for fun and all, an weather manipulation is far more obscure than massive explosions :maybe

Rewatch episode V they have....

Old Post Jan 27th, 2015 05:53 AM
Click here to Send Revanchiste a Private Message Find more posts by Revanchiste Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Angelalex242
Senior Member

Registered: Nov 2014
Location: United States


 

Yoda/Caedus
Plageuis
Vitiate
Starkiller


Vitiate is a wild card, as rituals take a while to build up, but he's a beast when they are. Without prep, though...

He beats Starkiller because Starkiller's a clone and thus susceptible to mindrape, one of his baseline main powers.

Old Post Jan 27th, 2015 08:57 AM
Click here to Send Angelalex242 a Private Message Find more posts by Angelalex242 Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Stigma
Herald of the Judgement

Registered: Jul 2013
Location: Poland


 

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
Do.you mean all force users in the mythos? Or just among those you've listed? If it's the former then the Father/Ones>All.

Only out of the characters listed in the OP. TBH I consider them all to be extremely close in power.

My list would be:
1. Yoda
2. Vitiate (with Nathema ritual, otherwise it's alsmot impossible tell)
3. Caedus
4. Plagueis
5. Starkiller

with virtually negligible power differences

Last edited by Stigma on Jan 27th, 2015 at 02:03 PM

Old Post Jan 27th, 2015 01:57 PM
Click here to Send Stigma a Private Message Find more posts by Stigma Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Stigma
Herald of the Judgement

Registered: Jul 2013
Location: Poland


 

quote: (post)
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Anyway, I'd consider Starkiller a more powerful Force user than Plagueis, and probably Caedus too; but his mastery and usage of it is lesser.

I can see that too.

quote: (post)
Originally posted by carthage
Darth Bane

Bane transcends these fools thumb up

Old Post Jan 27th, 2015 02:02 PM
Click here to Send Stigma a Private Message Find more posts by Stigma Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Board Walker
Senior Member

Registered: Aug 2005
Location:


 

Revan > everyone in this thread


__________________

Old Post Jan 27th, 2015 03:13 PM
Click here to Send Board Walker a Private Message Find more posts by Board Walker Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Sinious
Yo Da Best

Registered: Nov 2013
Location: Above Anakin


 

Vitiate
Yoda
Plagueis/ Caedus
Starkiller


__________________

"That is why you fail."

Old Post Jan 29th, 2015 12:01 AM
Click here to Send Sinious a Private Message Find more posts by Sinious Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
NTJack0
Ranger

Registered: Jul 2011
Location: Prancing Pony


 

Bandon.

Old Post Jan 29th, 2015 12:32 AM
Click here to Send NTJack0 a Private Message Find more posts by NTJack0 Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
All times are UTC. The time now is 09:26 PM.
Pages (2): [1] 2 »   Last Thread   Next Thread

Email this Page
Subscribe to this Thread
   Post New Thread  Post A Reply

Forum Jump:
Search by user:
 

Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is OFF
vB code is ON
Smilies are ON
[IMG] code is ON

Text-only version
 

< Contact Us - KillerMovies.com - Forum Archive - Forum Rules >


© Copyright 2000-2006, KillerMovies.com. All Rights Reserved.
Forum powered by: vBulletin, copyright ©2000-2006, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.