Registered: Sep 2004
Location: United Kingdom of Great Britain
About 2 minutes. Then Anakin comes and kicks some arse. But that two minutes is just a teaser of Sidious Vs Yoda duel that's going to take place few moments later.
ok, in my own opinion, i think the duels will be roughly this long
Anakin Skywalker V Obi-Wan Kenobi 10 - 12 min
Anakin Skywalker V Count Dooku 6 - 8 min
Obi-Wan Kenobi V General Grievous 6 - 8 min
Yoda V Palpatine 5 - 7 min
Anakin Skywalker V Mace Windu 5 - 7 min
Mace Windu V Palpatine 3 - 5 min
Sorry, I'm just really not sure if I buy that one Sith master can destroy 4 battlehardened Jedi, including Mace, singlehandedly. That's the kind of thing you expect to find in the EU. One thing I always respected about Star Wars was that it didn't do stupid shit like that. It even justified Dooku's defeating both Anakin and Obi-Wan by making Anakin spoil it all with his impatience.
Now we have one sith taking out multiple Jedi Masters, an unkillable-4-lightsaber-wielding-lizard-machine being killed by a single blaster.... it's just dumb. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that the movie's going to suck. I think it'll be damn good. I just think that certain parts are going to be stupid as hell.
All of these suggested duel times are way off. One can say 5 minutes is quick, but have we actually watched 5 uninterrupted minutes of 1 on 1 lightsaber dueling in any of the movies? .....NO
Lightsaber duels are similar to fencing matches and samurai sword battles; in that one hit should be enough. Having fenced and sword fought I know the concept of 4-8 minutes on non-stop indecisive swordplay is idiotic at best.
Once Ani intervenes on behalf of Palpatine, look for him to cut down Mace in under a minute.
__________________ "Betcha box a lil kan't ya sir, ah, u luk lik a boxa" - One Punch Mickey O'Neil, - Snatch
Correct, but that is not toe to toe, uninterrupted fighting. They are chasing each other, suffering falls, throws, saber and force attacks. I understand that their duel will be epic in both time and ground covered.
__________________ "Betcha box a lil kan't ya sir, ah, u luk lik a boxa" - One Punch Mickey O'Neil, - Snatch
Because yes, the most talented fighter in the Jedi order should be incapable of even defending himself against a Sith Lord. Seriously, people. I understand that Sidious would, and probably even should have the upper hand in the duel, but can anyone give one even remotely decent reason why Mace can't, at least initially, battle him to a stalemate at least? It makes no sense.
Anyone else in the Jedi Order? Sure, I can understand it. But, from my understanding, Mace and Yoda seem to occupy their own tier of mastery, with Yoda focusing more on the wisdom, and Mace focusing more on the combat. Honestly, it's my opinion that Mace should hold his own respectably against Sidious, and defeat Anakin. I understand that Anakin is the chosen one, but he's still a petulant, emotionally conflicted, unfocused Jedi *Knight* who is still relatively new to the Order, while Mace is a seasoned, battleharded Jedi Master, and a notoriously talented one at that.
Along the same vein, Sidious should not be able to take down *four* Jedi Masters. Any of them one on one, and maybe two on one, I can understand. But four is plausible only if he takes them by surprise. I don't see how he will, considering that they're off to confront him because they've uncovered his identity, but we'll see.
From the time Mace & Co. walk in till the time Mace gets flung out that window will probably be 5-6 minutes. This scene is all about getting Anakin on Palpatine's side.
I'm not saying it should last a long time, by the way. Honestly, I ideally don't think that the Mace-Sidious duel should swing much in either direction before Anakin shows up. Anakin dueling Mace should be the majority of the scene, and I think the total time between Mace confronting Sidious and Mace dying should be 10-15 minutes.
Depending on Palpy's true power, he may have no problem handling 4 Jedi. Remember, Palps is supposedly the ultimate force user in the galaxy who's powers extend far beyond any others.
It would be good if the fight were longer, but if Yoda's fighting him later on, it might be too repetitive. Palpatine probably uses a lot of dark side power to finish off the Jedi.
Jan 4th, 2005 04:48 PM
