The Presence isn't #1 in DCU.

Lucifer #75. Lucifer is leaving creation and entering the void. After a couple of meetings, he meets up with an aspect of his father. They talk about the past, present, and future concerning the two of them.

That aspect of the Presence reveals that although he is infinite and external, he was shaped by forces external even to himself , and that Lucifer knows what they are.

On a lesser note, it has been revealed that there was a third brother -- Gabriel, who imposed form and shape to Creation after Samael.

Spoiler:

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Lucifer takes place in Vertigo making it non-canonical to the main DCU.

Originally posted by grey fox
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Lucifer takes place in [b]Vertigo making it non-canonical to the main DCU. [/B]

Besides ... The God od Vertigo is sometimes refered to as the Presence.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Sandman have appeared in DC, n'uff said ...

Besides ... The God od Vertigo is sometimes refered to as the Presence.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
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Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Sandman have appeared in DC, n'uff said ...

Besides ... The God od Vertigo is sometimes refered to as the Presence.

...and ?

That could be easily chalked up as The MAIN DC's Morpheus. Like how there are technically more then one Galactus.

Originally posted by grey fox
...and ?

That could be easily chalked up as The MAIN DC's Morpheus. Like how there are technically more then one Galactus.

Andyhow, Presence is not supreme in Vertigo, as for DCU, nothing is stated, but he's probobly not.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
'could' = estimation = speculation = nope

Andyhow, Presence is not supreme in Vertigo, as for DCU, nothing is stated, but he's probobly not.

"probably" = estimation = speculation = nope?

Originally posted by V for Valentine
"probably" = estimation = speculation = nope?

Originally posted by grey fox
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Lucifer takes place in [b]Vertigo making it non-canonical to the main DCU. [/B]

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
'could' = estimation = speculation = nope

Andyhow, Presence is not supreme in Vertigo, as for DCU, nothing is stated, but he's probobly not.

Ok then if you want to be picky.

Sandman + Lucifer = Vertigo , Vertigo = Non Canon.

Anything that appeared is simply a anomaly or mistake.

Originally posted by grey fox
Ok then if you want to be picky.

Sandman + Lucifer = Vertigo , Vertigo = Non Canon.

Anything that appeared is simply a anomaly or mistake.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
So GEB, Lucifer, Michael, Yawhew, Elanie ect. are all non canon and loses by default in any battles in the versus forum, because their feat and statements don't count?

Nope.

But any feats or statements they've made within a MAINSTREAM Dc comic is null and void.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Lucifer #75. Lucifer is leaving creation and entering the void. After a couple of meetings, he meets up with an aspect of his father. They talk about the past, present, and future concerning the two of them.

[B]That aspect of the Presence reveals that although he is infinite and external, he was shaped by forces external even to himself , and that Lucifer knows what they are.

On a lesser note, it has been revealed that there was a third brother -- Gabriel, who imposed form and shape to Creation after Samael.

Spoiler:

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Wait...

So the prescence isn't god in the DC Universe? 😕

Originally posted by Grimm22
Wait...

So the prescence isn't god in the DC Universe? 😕

The Blue brother (pre-retcon) however was stated to be the supreme being in all of DC just like the Red brother (pre-retcon) was stated to be supreme in all of Marvel.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Well he is God, but not Supreme, at least not in Vertigo ...

The Blue brother (pre-retcon) however was stated to be the supreme being in all of DC just like the Red brother (pre-retcon) was stated to be supreme in all of Marvel.

supreme?

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and there have been a few xovers between dcu and vertigo though nowadays it is a bit of a grey area whether vertigo is canon to the dcu. hypertime is/was suppose to connect ALL of dc (including elseworlds) but nowadays it's hard to say for certain.

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Originally posted by juggernaut66666
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Originally posted by leonidas
supreme?

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and there have been a few xovers between dcu and vertigo though nowadays it is a bit of a grey area whether vertigo is canon to the dcu. hypertime is/was suppose to connect ALL of dc (including elseworlds) but nowadays it's hard to say for certain.