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Originally posted by the-mr-killer
spiderman is slow. in dbz, theyre much faster. and normal people CAN knock out sharks

can punch a great white shark under water and KO it?

That was while holding back too............

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can punch a great white shark under water and KO it?


not in water, but still, then shang chi is not THAT much superhuman

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actaully he can and has. His stats are constantly amped. His reflexes and agility are always at superhuman levels. He can amp his abilties with a seconds notice. He does not need to mediate like batman and other do.


.....what if thats so why did he get curbstomped by Wolverine, why is it stated that Cap is a better fighter than him. Caps is enhanced.


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The S-Rank DC - Martial Artist Comparison List:

DC:
1. Dragon
2. Shiva
3. Cass
4. Tiger
5. Connar
6. Batman (A generous place, ignoring guys like Drako, Maddog, Alpha. I can come up with variations of the list with out Batman even making the top ten)

1-3 are all pretty much interchangeable (Dragon, lacking the body language ability of Cass and Shiva, edging the others in pure skill)

Shang Chi is the Marvel's closest equivalent to Dragon or Shiva in terms of skill. One of four characters (I believe) in Marvel who have actually been stated, on panel, to have mastered every fighting style known to man (further more he has engaged, and bested, a dozen monks who boosted the same). He is monsterously skilled, to the point that he dwarves Batman (keep in mind that Richard Dragon has refered to Batman as "a skilled amature," and you will have some idea as to how a fight between Chi and Bruce would play out).


Well since you said Shang can amp his skill to Spiderman levels im goinna take all that with a pinch of salt.


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not in water, but still, then shang chi is not THAT much superhuman

dude a normal human could not even hope to KO a great white on land with a 100 punches let a lone in water with one.

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im not lying what so ever. You have to read his comics. Not go by some crap wiki says.


shang-chi is known to be able to amp his stats well into the superhuman levels. He has been able move at speeds rivalling that of spiderman.

He been able to KO a shark with a single punch.

The guy a chi amper like IF. They both have the ability to use there chi to amp there abilties past human limitations.



Lots of people here look at his comics. This just shows you don't know much IronFist got his boost from the mystical undying Shou-lao.


KO a shark big deal. Bats has KO'ed the real superhuman villan the Croc with a one shot, to even snap a leopards neck easily, to even kick a special door that was designed to withstand a cruise missile.

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.....what if thats so why did he get curbstomped by Wolverine, why is it stated that Cap is a better fighter than him. Caps is enhanced.

are we talking about capt here?


why does every thing ahve to be about capt with you?


No one said a dam thing about capt. Were talking about batman.


What do you mean why did he get curbstomped by wolverine? Batman would not have faired any better.

I fail to see how Logan beating shang-chi matters at all in this fighter.


when ahs capt ever in a comic been stated directly as a better fighter then shang-chi. Not that it really matters since this has nothing to do with capt.

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.....what if thats so why did he get curbstomped by Wolverine, why is it stated that Cap is a better fighter than him. Caps is enhanced.


Well since you said Shang can amp his skill to Spiderman levels im goinna take all that with a pinch of salt.


I said he can amp his "physical attributes" to be in line with those of Spider-man... which he can.

Don't decided right now if you believe me or not, you are probably just distracted. Wait until your Spider-man bedsheets get back from the dry cleaners so you can put your head into the game.


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dude a normal human could not even hope to KO a great white on land with a 100 punches let a lone in water with one.


was it stated in the comic that it was a great white?

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are we talking about capt here?


why does every thing ahve to be about capt with you?


No one said a dam thing about capt. Were talking about batman.


What do you mean why did he get curbstomped by wolverine? Batman would not have faired any better.

I fail to see how Logan beating shang-chi matters at all in this fighter.


when ahs capt ever in a comic been stated directly as a better fighter then shang-chi. Not that it really matters since this has nothing to do with capt.


Im not gonna bother explaining.


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Lots of people here look at his comics. This just shows you don't know much IronFist got his boost from the mystical undying Shou-lao.]

hahahaha. I know a lot about IF and you made a stupid mistake thinking I don't.

First of all yes his IF comes from mystical means. How ever he can and has amped his stats with out the use of the IF. Most of his stats are amp by normal chi amping means. He only really uses his Iron Fist when punching. He hardly ever uses it to amp his speed and so forth. Most all of that is amped with normal every day chi like shang-chi does.


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[B]KO a shark big deal. Bats has KO'ed the real superhuman villan the Croc with a one shot, to even snap a leopards neck easily, to even kick a special door that was designed to withstand a cruise missile.


under water...............


Not to mention it was implied he could have killed the shark by caving it it head..........

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hahahaha. I know a lot about IF and you made a stupid mistake thinking I don't.

First of all yes his IF comes from mystical means. How ever he can and ahs amped his powers with out the use of the IF. Most of his stats are amp by normal chi amping means. He only really uses his IRon Fist when punching. He hardly ever uses it to amp his speed and so forth. Most all of that is amped with normal every day chi like shang-chi does.




under water...............


Not to mention it was implied he could have killed the shark by caving it it head..........



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was it stated in the comic that it was a great white?

Not sure actaully. Though seeing as how they were at least 14 to 16 feat long and looked just like a great white..........im gunna assume they were.


Though I think it was evehn stated, but not completely sure as of this moment.

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Im not gonna bother explaining.

no you got proven to look foolish by bringing up capt when it was un needed now your trying to save your self by trying to make it seem like im being rediculous when you my friend are the one who let his cock fest with capt be brought into a thread about batman and shang-chi.

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Originally posted by the-mr-killer
was it stated in the comic that it was a great white?


I'm not sure if it was a great white or not - I don't have the issue in front of me - but you can tell by the fins, if it is or not.


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Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The S-Rank DC - Martial Artist Comparison List:

DC:
1. Dragon
2. Shiva
3. Cass
4. Tiger
5. Connar
6. Batman (A generous place, ignoring guys like Drako, Maddog, Alpha. I can come up with variations of the list with out Batman even making the top ten)

1-3 are all pretty much interchangeable (Dragon, lacking the body language ability of Cass and Shiva, edging the others in pure skill)

Shang Chi is the Marvel's closest equivalent to Dragon or Shiva in terms of skill. One of four characters (I believe) in Marvel who have actually been stated, on panel, to have mastered every fighting style known to man (further more he has engaged, and bested, a dozen monks who boosted the same). He is monsterously skilled, to the point that he dwarves Batman (keep in mind that Richard Dragon has refered to Batman as "a skilled amature," and you will have some idea as to how a fight between Chi and Bruce would play out).
Funny that Batman has stalemated or outright defeated all of the top three you named, and I haven't seen one win over him from any of them.
In fact, Batman just recently outclassed Karate Kid in Brave and the Bold, and that was after a sneak attack. Karate Kid then felt bad that next time, he wouldn't even get the surprise attack in. lol.


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Funny that Batman has stalemated or outright defeated all of the top three you named, and I haven't seen one win over him from any of them.
In fact, Batman just recently outclassed Karate Kid in Brave and the Bold, and that was after a sneak attack. Karate Kid then felt bad that next time, he wouldn't even get the surprise attack in. lol.

are you really syaign batman can beat karate kid..............come on now your just beign rediculous.

karate kid should have no trouble what so ever with batman.

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Not sure actaully. Though seeing as how they were at least 14 to 16 feat long and looked just like a great white..........im gunna assume they were.


Though I think it was evehn stated, but not completely sure as of this moment.


its drawn. it dont have to be a great white

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are you really syaign batman can beat karate kid..............come on now your just beign rediculous.

karate kid should have no trouble what so ever with batman.


i have seen the films, and no, he cant defeat batman

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