There are thousand and one uses for TK. Mewtwo and has shown there isnt really much limit on his TK. It pretty probable that he could just rip Kains limbs off
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if you think thats going to make any diffrence in this fight other than give kain a wonderful reason to reform far away from M2 only to destroy M2 from range then you have not been reading the kain threads have you hmm
also show me please M2 use of TK, is it not also true Pokemon cannot kill?
i would love for someone to show me M2 TK AND the logevity of his TK, does he ever have to stop using his powers?
also M2 is tiny, it would be almost as easy for Kain to use his own TK to rip M2 apart as it would be for M2 to try and do this to kain
Pokemon dont kill humans. Kain is not Human. and the whole pokemon dont kill humans is BS. Also Mewtwo killed the scientist in the first movie. So yeah thats point is out of the question.
Kain can reform. Would Mewtwo just hold him down in place.
and lol at Kain ripping apart Mewtwo with TK. Thats the most laughable concept.
But here is an example from the movie of Mewtwo using his tk.
He controlled the weather around the world for, controlled over 150 pokemon also those with tk, along with his servants, and fought another strong telepath pokemon all at the same time. Manuvering the clone pokemon to battle their counterparts and have the upperhand. Along with his fight with the original mew.
I dont have footasge but its in the first pokemon movie.
__________________ Originally posted by GenomeFrozener
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well it doesnt matter Mewtwo cannot kill Kain anyway
erm? well yeh if you can prove Mewtwo can just hold kain down indefinatley or if not you, someone else without losing any strength at all, maybe ill concede to a stalemate until M2 dies of old age
really? on what grounds is it laughable? show me M2 blocking a TK effect please, once again, ime not simply takeing some guys word and snort at this prospect
this doesnt really mean anything to me, their pokemon, not godlike Vampires, their mostly tiny animal like and often softy critters that would flee from bunny slippers.....theres only a handful that i would not rate under that like most of the final evolutions but things like Mudkip, Squairtle, Pikachu etc etc and so many more are such soft animal like things its almost laughable and it would be if it were not for the fact M2 is actually one of the few kl and serious pokemon
but once again, please actually show me, if you cant then someone else please show me
A controling mindattack is different than a mindblast and such. Mewtwo is more or less a superpowerful telekinetical being. Raziel launched Kain with a mere telekinetical blast, and Mewtwo's telekinetical powers are beyond Raziel.
With just a number of thoughts, Kain will never come anywhere near Mewtwo. Since I doubt the balance of the Sion is applied in this fight, Kain can very much be defeated. Not sure he can die still, but Mewtwo has the advantage if you ask me.
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Last edited by Rapidash on Dec 18th, 2007 at 06:27 PM
the scion of balance, its what he is, his title lol.....it cant be not included
erm what are you saying? mind control like used by Marcus and Mind concept guardian is mind attack indeed......thats what i was saying that M2 wont be contrlling kains mind but using TK to move kain is viable
also can you SHOW me this "beyond" Raziel TK, although the dimensional lines were weakened, Raziel blasted kain through a dimension with his TK which takes more than a "mere telekinetical blast" show me M2 doing something incredible with TK please
maybe he does, but can he keep this up, also, he will eventually die, i dont think pokemon are immortal are they? so technically M2 will eventually die even if kain for some reason could not survive TK
Raziel blasted him trough a portal, not actually blasting him trough a dimension, no?
Mewtwo used his TK to neglect powerful life-draining blasts. A blast that by simply touching any pokemon had them knocked out.
He destroy an entire facility with just his mind.
He launches 300lbs pokemons without moving a muscle, or feeing a drop of stamina.
He was capable of reforming earth and stone out of the mountain by raising his hand.
He destroyed an easy thirty robotic arms with a thought.
Alakazam could not even hold his own against his TK for a few seconds (This was when Mewtwo's powers were restrained)
He reflect one of the most powerful attacks a pokemon can bring forth (Solar Energy) by just lifting his hand.
He make himself fly in jetspeed.
His protective shield can more or less protect him from a nuclear blast.
There is A LOT more about Mewtwo than what I brought up
hes kl its true, espcially compared to other pokemon, but theres nothing in there to suggest he would tool kain, and nothing i think suggests his TK is so much greater than Raziels, Kain and Raziel have shattered concrete and such with their TK attacks before and thats nothing i think in that video to think M2 could take it easily without Kain even moving, it took him some effort at first to break glass (prob in weakened state tho rite?)
Where the hell do yall find these videos. I was searching for them but couldnt find. He was controlling the weather across the entire globe using telekenesis. Raziel is no where near M2 control. If so...Post some videos of Raziel so i can find info where Mewtwo does something greater...me or someone else. i suck at finding videos. Why...because im lazy
__________________ Originally posted by GenomeFrozener
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I rather not cut my intelligence and stoop to their level of ignorance.
Be smart, and use corrective grammar, so you don;t sound like a complete jackass."
In the Great words of Shao Khaun
"YOU HAVE FAAAIIILLLLED!!!!!!!!"
Raziel is equel to kain in TK, he can move things as small as weapons and intricate things, or throw humans around as well as break away concrete, its not equel to M2 destruction of that facility but thats destructive force not actually picking a being up or freezing them in TK.....which Kain can do, which he is likely to do to M2, also hows M2 mind, having a fast mind does not mean it can resist being overridden, how is his strength against mind controlling powers? Kains a beast at mind control, especially now he has the mind emblem
Alakazam is capable of throwing large pokemons around with TK. Alakazam could do nothing against Mewtwo. He could not even launch one single attack. He tried blocking, but in vain.
Mewtwo has blocked a large number of TK attacks from Mew. Mewtwo also lifted just about 149 pokemons up into the air trough TK and flew away with them all.
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Last edited by Rapidash on Dec 18th, 2007 at 09:38 PM
yeh but what about M2 mind? how great is it, is it incredible deep and intelligent or is it just fast ,can you prove it has any way of being ripped apart by kains charm powers?
hm, now this is where it sounds odd, can you show me him blocking a TK attack? TK force is what M2 is doing to the glass, but how can you block that? its AOE, its invisibile force....
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