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Cloud would kick Shepard's ass. For the record.

No seriously, in terms of an all ground battle, the FFverse would completely decimate MEverse.


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In all ground, yes.


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This is true.

Guess which Asari Dreadnought was completely annihilated by Sovereign? smile

Keep in mind that there is, according to Sovereign, an almost limitless amount of Reapers.


Hmm, I don't remember Destiny Ascension ever firing though.

And yea, no one ship in ME universe can stand up to a Reaper ship.


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Hmm, I don't remember Destiny Ascension ever firing though.

And yea, no one ship in ME universe can stand up to a Reaper ship.
Neithe do I, but to destroy the largest, most powerful ship in the Citadel with a single shot, that is ridiculous, and of course we can assume that Sovereign, the largest and most powerful ship in the galaxy, can strike with more force than the Ascension.

Indeed, considering that Sovereign was only a single Reaper, and it took the entire Citadel fleet to destroy him, while he was preoccupied and could not fire his main gun, with the Citadel suffering heavy casualties, says alot.


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Neithe do I, but to destroy the largest, most powerful ship in the Citadel with a single shot, that is ridiculous, and of course we can assume that Sovereign, the largest and most powerful ship in the galaxy, can strike with more force than the Ascension.

Indeed, considering that Sovereign was only a single Reaper, and it took the entire Citadel fleet to destroy him, while he was preoccupied and could not fire his main gun, with the Citadel suffering heavy casualties, says alot.


Truth be told, Sovereign brought some Geth fodder with him.

At any rate, I wonder how much longer would have Sovereign survived if he hadn't used up his power to make Saren his avatar. Because it looked like when Saren was finally killed for good, Sovereign lost power and was destroyed.


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I don't think it's fair that there has to be a galaxy full of Reapers in this fight. It's ridiculous. Are we sure that each and every Reaper is as powerful as Sovereign? Because if they are, then the FF Universe is going to have some majorly heavy casualties.


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Truth be told, Sovereign brought some Geth fodder with him.

At any rate, I wonder how much longer would have Sovereign survived if he hadn't used up his power to make Saren his avatar. Because it looked like when Saren was finally killed for good, Sovereign lost power and was destroyed.
True.

That actually is in fact what happened, good call, he was preoccupied with controlling Saren when destroyed by the Normandy.


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I disagree with this point. Appeal to novelty is a fallacy. In many cases, particularly in fiction, a sword in the right hands is just as effective as a futuristic weapon, particularly in terms of destructive power, swords often show more.


But how? Let's play out a scenario ground battle:

ME soldiers use drones to scout the perimeter and locate the FF forces.

Meanwhile, FF forces march and send scouts to try and hunt down the ME forces.

Drones run into scouts, drones fire, scouts charge, scouts die.

Now, in the battle:

FF soldiers charge, ME soldiers fire...FF soldiers die. The end. Even if their swords were somehow more powerful than the ME soldiers' guns, they would get shot to bits before they even came close. Their magic also has a relatively lower range and most of them are weaker than ME guns.

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But they are clearly more powerful than your typical tech soldier.


Battle between Shepard and Vaan:

Vaan runs towards Shepard, Shepard shoots, Vaan dies. Shepard's sniper rifle > the range of Vaan's spells.

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Cloud would kick Shepard's ass. For the record.

No seriously, in terms of an all ground battle, the FFverse would completely decimate MEverse.


Please give evidence...


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Let's see.

Cloud can move fast enough Shepard will never hit him, and can cut him in half before he can hit him.

A ground battle would take away the ships, which would mean the likes of Kefka and Kuja would wipe out the entire ME militia.


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Let's see.

Cloud can move fast enough Shepard will never hit him, and can cut him in half before he can hit him.

A ground battle would take away the ships, which would mean the likes of Kefka and Kuja would wipe out the entire ME militia.


Cloud maybe, but Cloud's definitely an above average party member...most of them would get pwned by Shepard. And even then Cloud's sword might not be able to penetrate ME armor/shields.

ME "militia"???


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Cloud maybe, but Cloud's definitely an above average party member...most of them would get pwned by Shepard. And even then Cloud's sword might not be able to penetrate ME armor/shields.

ME "militia"???


Cloud really isn't that powerful, and compared to other FF Villains Sephiroth is nothing. I think 7 is only popular because it was the first really mainstream FF game. Plus there was a guy with spikey hair and a giant sword. It kind of reminds me how most people's first introduction to LoZ was Ocarina of Time.


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Cloud maybe, but Cloud's definitely an above average party member...most of them would get pwned by Shepard. And even then Cloud's sword might not be able to penetrate ME armor/shields.

ME "militia"???
The entire FFVII team would beat his ass. The majority of other FF characters would as well. Cloud's sword will easily penetrate it.

Wrong word. Meant military. Point still stands, the likes of Kefka, Kuja, or Sephiroth will annihilate MEverse's ground verses.


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Cloud really isn't that powerful, and compared to other FF Villains Sephiroth is nothing. I think 7 is only popular because it was the first really mainstream FF game. Plus there was a guy with spikey hair and a giant sword. It kind of reminds me how most people's first introduction to LoZ was Ocarina of Time.
Cloud is the most powerful FF protagonist based on what he has done.


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Cloud maybe, but Cloud's definitely an above average party member...most of them would get pwned by Shepard. And even then Cloud's sword might not be able to penetrate ME armor/shields.

ME "militia"???


I'm surprised that someone who hasn't played the Final Fantasy games still wants to talk in a Final Fantasy versus thread. The characters in there are fast enough to dodge bullets and here you are saying Shepard can pwn them all. What bullcrap. I demand there to be evidence of Cloud's sword not being able to penetrate ME armor/shields.

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ME guns shoot slugs that go much faster than bullets, Cloud has no chance of blocking them.


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ME guns shoot slugs that go much faster than bullets, Cloud has no chance of blocking them.
They're automatic railguns to be specific.

But the thing is, you can't hit Cloud if you can't line him in your site.


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I'm surprised that someone who hasn't played the Final Fantasy games still wants to talk in a Final Fantasy versus thread. The characters in there are fast enough to dodge bullets and here you are saying Shepard can pwn them all. What bullcrap. I demand there to be evidence of Cloud's sword not being able to penetrate ME armor/shields.


I've played 12 and tactics A2

wtf? Please provide a list of characters that can dodge not bullets, but mass accelerator speed slugs fired at a rapid rate. I'm waiting.

Please show evidence of it being able to. I'm not saying that it can't, I don't know, but I'm asking you for proof that his big sword can penetrate Shepard's shields/armor.

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The entire FFVII team would beat his ass. The majority of other FF characters would as well. Cloud's sword will easily penetrate it.

Wrong word. Meant military. Point still stands, the likes of Kefka, Kuja, or Sephiroth will annihilate MEverse's ground verses.


Maybe the uper tier demi-gods like Kefka (most of them however get beaten by your party though and wouldn't make a big enough difference in a ground battle) would help FF win/come very close to winning, but...

ME still has FAR superior numbers, technology and such in a ground battle.

And in an all out war...ME wins very easily.


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Maybe the uper tier demi-gods like Kefka (most of them however get beaten by your party though and wouldn't make a big enough difference in a ground battle) would help FF win/come very close to winning, but...

ME still has FAR superior numbers, technology and such in a ground battle.

And in an all out war...ME wins very easily.
Kefka rearranges continents and can destroy cities with single blasts of the Light of Judgment, he can mantain it for longer to destroy what is equivelant to entire countries, Kuja can glass an entire planet under a short period of time, killing every ME troop.

This is true.

This is also true.


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Kefka rearranges continents and can destroy cities with single blasts of the Light of Judgment, he can mantain it for longer to destroy what is equivelant to entire countries, Kuja can glass an entire planet under a short period of time, killing every ME troop.

This is true.

This is also true.


So maybe in a ground battle this Kefka guy seals a win, but if you take him out then ME pwns...

Heck, even with him, can he tank a nuclear barrage?


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So maybe in a ground battle this Kefka guy seals a win, but if you take him out then ME pwns...

Heck, even with him, can he tank a nuclear barrage?
A better question is will they have enough time to activate it before Kefka decimates their forces?

And Kuja can survive the equivelant to a nuclear strike in power.


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