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What is this based on exactly that Doom is greater than Thanos in prep? In Fact, they have both gone against eachother to acquire artifacts and Thanos has always come out on top. They are relative equals when it comes to prep... difference is.. Thanos is clearly and by a wide margin more powerful than Doom or Loki. That means, Thanos takes this.
They've only "gone at each other" once when Thanos had already acquired his artifact in the Infinity Gauntlet. Context. With THOTU, Akhenaten prepped against Doom and didn't do anything to prep against Thanos and the Defenders. Doom and Thanos never went at each other in Marvel: The End. Convenient. As it was convenient that TOAA meant for Thanos to have it anyway.

Doom's accomplished more with his prep and in less time. No question.


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They've only "gone at each other" once when Thanos had already acquired his artifact in the Infinity Gauntlet. Context. With THOTU, Akhenaten prepped against Doom and didn't do anything to prep against Thanos and the Defenders. Doom and Thanos never went at each other in Marvel: The End. Convenient. As it was convenient that TOAA meant for Thanos to have it anyway.

Doom's accomplished more with his prep and in less time. No question.


They were both trying to acquire something... Doom even makes the comment that Thanos Tech is superior to his own... Thanos ends up with the artifact in question and Doom does not. Nothing I said was untrue. Furthermore, let take your premise and conclusion as being true.. you would agree that they are very comparable in this area and neither has a decisive advantage over the other in prep correct? However, Thanos DOES have a decisive advantage over Doom in Power.. that is where the difference lies.

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^ Doom didn't end up with THOTU because Akhentaen prepped against Doom and TOAA meant for Thanos to have it.

It's called having the odds stacked against you. When a "supreme being" preps against you and the supposedly "Supreme Being" mandates someone else gets it, it's kinda hard for someone else to get it. Even if that someone else is Doom. Everything you said lacks context.

Doom and Thanos are not "comparable" in prep. Doom has achieved much more with far less. And when prep is involved, base levels of power are, for all intents and purposes, meaningless.


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Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
What is this based on exactly that Doom is greater than Thanos in prep? In Fact, they have both gone against eachother to acquire artifacts and Thanos has always come out on top. They are relative equals when it comes to prep... difference is.. Thanos is clearly and by a wide margin more powerful than Doom or Loki. That means, Thanos takes this.
I agree thanos is vastly more powerful than Doom. But doom is, IMO, better in prep than thanos. And with a month of prep, their respective power differences pre-prep do not make much of a difference here. Hence doom wins.


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I agree thanos is vastly more powerful than Doom. But doom is, IMO, better in prep than thanos. And with a month of prep, their respective power differences pre-prep do not make much of a difference here. Hence doom wins.
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Based on which showings in this a "fact"

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^ Doom didn't end up with THOTU because Akhentaen prepped against Doom and TOAA meant for Thanos to have it.

It's called having the odds stacked against you. When a "supreme being" preps against you and the supposedly "Supreme Being" mandates someone else gets it, it's kinda hard for someone else to get it. Even if that someone else is Doom. Everything you said lacks context.

Doom and Thanos are not "comparable" in prep. Doom has achieved much more with far less. And when prep is involved, base levels of power are, for all intents and purposes, meaningless.


You can never say Doom has achieved MUCH more.. Thanos has achieved exponentially more. This whole.. with less thing means very little. Both of their goals at one point in time was rule the universe. They tried to achieve said goals via prap.. Thanos has done so multiple times... Doom has failed multiple times...

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Based on which showings in this a "fact"


Doom's showings across his entire career as a whole?


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ODG and Jake = Doom fanboys.

Amirite, Kurupt?


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no more then me being a Thanos fanboy

amirite Mindset?

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urite.

I'm pretty much the only unbiased member here.


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You can never say Doom has achieved MUCH more.. Thanos has achieved exponentially more. This whole.. with less thing means very little. Both of their goals at one point in time was rule the universe. They tried to achieve said goals via prap.. Thanos has done so multiple times... Doom has failed multiple times...
Thanos has failed multiple times as well with the Cosmic Cube and the Infinity Gauntlet. The one time you thought that maybe he did it, it turned out to be TOAA's plan all along. So his "best feat" of being supreme in the universe was a non-feat. You can't keep citing to that without accepting the true context of the story. Thanos and the Cosmic Cube? Doom also obtained the Cosmic Cube on top of a variety of artifacts and Galactus' Power Cosmic. We can consider that a tie... to be generous.

So what do you have left? Thanos and the Infinity Gauntlet? Doom obtained Beyonder's power and was supreme in the universe before the diminished Beyonder conspired to take it back (successfully). And that achievement by Doom outstrips Thanos' gathering of the Infinity Gems during Infinity Quest since Death helped him and Thanos had far more prep than Doom's "mere minutes" after being nearly destroyed by Galactus in Secret Wars. Literally, a few minutes.

Thanos has never achieved anything on that scale in a matter of minutes, having been nearly destroyed, without an Abstract's help. Infinity Gauntlet vs. Beyonder? No comparison. No serious one anyway.


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If we are taking away the high end universal item feats like IG etc then I'd pick Loki. His prep just seems a little more devious and more layered then Thanos or Doom and taking away the extreme high end feats is more up Loki's alley. Loki also seems to get easy assistance from powerful entities in his prep like Mephisto, Surtur, Hela etc. I think that alone would be a huge edge in this particular fight.

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Thanos has failed multiple times as well with the Cosmic Cube and the Infinity Gauntlet. The one time you thought that maybe he did it, it turned out to be TOAA's plan all along. So his "best feat" of being supreme in the universe was a non-feat. You can't keep citing to that without accepting the true context of the story. Thanos and the Cosmic Cube? Doom also obtained the Cosmic Cube on top of a variety of artifacts and Galactus' Power Cosmic. We can consider that a tie... to be generous.

So what do you have left? Thanos and the Infinity Gauntlet? Doom obtained Beyonder's power and was supreme in the universe before the diminished Beyonder conspired to take it back (successfully). And that achievement by Doom outstrips Thanos' gathering of the Infinity Gems during Infinity Quest since Death helped him and Thanos had far more prep than Doom's "mere minutes" after being nearly destroyed by Galactus in Secret Wars. Literally, a few minutes.

Thanos has never achieved anything on that scale in a matter of minutes, having been nearly destroyed, without an Abstract's help. Infinity Gauntlet vs. Beyonder? No comparison. No serious one anyway.


Actually that isn't even CLOSE to true. Thanos succeded in his goal of taking over the Universe and other Universes in fact.. when he said i have God of UniverseS. He stomped every abstract that was sent his way and even took over Eternity's place in the Universe. So.. no he didn't fail.. He gave up his power on his own accord. So no they aren't the same... Thanos has accomplished MORE than Doom EVER has. Might I add... Thanos also accomplished more with a cube then Doom every did. Replacing Eternity>>> than anything Doom every did with the cube.

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Thanos takes this... He is one sick muthaf@#$%..

Prep is his thing..
Les go more recent..
How bout using and playing around with abstracts like Galactus, Tenebrous, and Aegis? He wasn't even doing it for himself.
How bout using himself as bait to finally obliterate Lord Mar-Vell and causing the death of a whole universe?
Thanos is king...


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