Ironic your speaking of cherry picking... you brought up Orion in Wonder Woman. I brought up Hal vs Wonder Woman.
If you want I could also use Superman vs Hal compared to Superman vs Orion. The Nu52 consistently has Hal at a lower level I'm sorry if that makes you hurt in anyway.
That doesn't make your statements true in any regard. Rebirth also ignores the Nu Teen Titans history with Cyborg, Ravens and Beast Boy. Cyborg is still a JL founder, and Martian Manhunter isnt. Rebirth doesn't suggest pick feats you want in continuity.
Explain also why Hal being sent flying by Wonder Woman stomping doesn't look bad...
You brought up a couple panels and no resolution to the fight. I brought up appearances across several issues. If you don't see the difference I can't help you.
Don't act like you've actually read it and developed an informed opinion.
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The fight didn't even need a conclusion... Wonder Woman pounced on him for several panels and Hal didn't get any hits in until Superman distracted Diana based on the little we got Cyborg saved Hal's life.
He wasn't expecting her to attack him after charging at her? He flew to her to attack her. She cut his chest and then stomped on the ground saying to be gone. Superman feeling pity for Hal tried to calm Diana down..
Also not really...
Darkseid broke Hal's hand. Darkseid also sent Hal flying and broke his constructs by stomping on the ground which did nothing to Diana but provide a nice breeze. You'll have to explain to me how Hal did better.
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Yes, she is equal to Supergirl in strength. That's right around Superman level.
OK, I thought you were trying to talk about the initial attack.
But stomping someone away doesn't means much. A kryptonite poisoned Superman knocked away two Justice League teams at once. That doesn't means he was beating both teams.
Yes, just sending Hal flying and crashing into wonder woman stunned her while he was back at his feet in no time.
Stunned her when? You provided anything but Hal performing better. Honestly Aquaman and Wonder Woman did better against Darkseid given the fact they actually pierced him. Hal's constructs broke on contact with Darkseid in the scans you provided.. and he was beaten up how exactly did he do better. It just looks like the League let him keep going at Darkseid it doesn't look like any of them were stunned...
You didn't provide anything backing your point on anyone else having indirect difficulty against someone of Diana's strength. Who were on these teams that Superman sent flying. It's a nice mention but it's hollow..
His whole fight against Wonder Woman makes him look bad.
The New Gods mention is another Example.
Superman beating up Hal in Origins
Also in regards to your Supergirl statement, Lobdell compared the difference in strength between Supergirl and Superman like comparing a 16 year old girl to a 30 year old man.
The Darkseid one is a nice consideration of will power but he is just getting beat up.
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