🤦🏿... this is sad. Tell me the difference. Hal Jordan shoots a blast of light from his ring and we see the green blast of light coming out of his ring hitting Grundy.
Flash moves so fast that he leaves a beam of DENSE light behind him.
One is shooting a beam of light and the other is moving so fast that he creates a beam of light. Is there a difference?
As I said before - I am NOT using Mjolnir, lmao. Then you try and argue against using Mjolnir. SMH.
READ my posts. STOP just looking at the pretty pictures.
So now the feat has changed. And you are asking who is fast enough to create light from just their sheer movement?
I mean....as that is physically impossible, as Smurph said, it's impossible to quantify. Unless you are referring to the air friction being high enough to generate light? I mean, the Space Shuttle moves so fast at re-entry, it starts creating light - that's about 17,500 mph. So fast, but not THAT fast.
Re-read your own scans, lmao. Nowhere does it say they are creating a dense beam of light behind them. The text is referring to the dense network of light trails that they are creating over the course of milliseconds.
Lol.
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Last edited by DarkSaint85 on Jan 17th, 2022 at 05:03 PM
Seems pretty clear cut to me. Also, why post GL blast exceeding the sound barrier. Of course it will exceed the sound barrier and let's add speed of light into that as well. Flash even admitted he can't outrun a GL blast...
We know GL's powers are light-based, thus the trails their leaving behind are also lightbeams, and by your logic, who are fast enough to generate/leave trails of lightbeams are also lightspeed( Especially GL's beams are speicifically defined as lightspeed)
So now you have two options: 1) These characters moving fast enough to create light, which as DS pointed out, doesnt mean lightspeed 2) They are capable of creating/generating lightbeams by their abilities, which like GL's, not necessarily means they are lightspeed
Last edited by qwertyuiop1998 on Jan 17th, 2022 at 05:13 PM
Yeah, a dense structure, NOT that the beams were like.... literally dense lmao.
As for the Hal scan, you can clearly see it breaking the sound barrier ('BOOOOM'), but the light beam showed up even before he hit it (and supported by the words).
I mean, you can use the Batwing as well if you like. Clear light beams behind him. Guess it's FTL
Let's end this. Flashy Flash, one of the guys in that scan admitted during that scuffle that the 2 other guys were moving faster than him and he was using his top speed. Flashy Flash on panel has been confirmed as a FTL guy. There, now let's get back on topic, please. Who can repeat...
Flashes(no pun intended) admitted they need to move faster than they has ever moved before to get to Darkseid. I.E, massive faster than light, faster than death, faster than even time itself
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And Superman entered and reached Darkseid by himself, even reacted when Flashes was moving at the speed that they had never moved before
Last edited by qwertyuiop1998 on Jan 17th, 2022 at 05:38 PM
If it was the writer's intention that they were moving at light speed then the artist sure messed it up. Do you know how many streaks (of those sizes) a literal beam of light can make in a matter of milliseconds?
With that said, you're claim is that they moved with light speed
Well MANY characters in comics can move at light speed or better.
So that's a shitty feat once again.
When you think about Carver once asking specific statements Flashes were moving FTL speed in the scene of Superman reacted to them
Despite the fact Flashes stated they need to move faster than they ever moved before in order to reach Darkseid, and Wally was specifically stated capable of moving FTL in the same story etc
But Carver seems to have no problem using the same scaling logic in here
Then by the numbers that given by your scans, It was a milliseconds combat speed. So Superman, Ironman, even Thor capable of doing it
By who can leave trails or lightbeam trails whatsoever in a fight. Ray, GLs, and Superman Blue etc these energy/light-based characters all capable of doing it
Don't know why you all are comparing comics to Manga. Yes, comics, there is far more solid evidence of someone going light speed. Unraveling puzzles at light speed or chasing a beam of light, evacuating a city at certain speeds, etc... anime doesn't work like that because Anime is 9 times out of 10, all combat. Flashy Flash is FTL. No way around this.
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