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Which tier-tourney do you prefer?
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Bentley
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Which tier-tourney do you prefer?

When having a tourney what kind of character would you rather use?

- Street level.
- Meta level.
- Herald level.
- Multi-levels (point systems or stuff).
- Amalgams.


And while we are at it, which ones do you hate? wink


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Multi-levels, and amalgams.


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JakeTheBank
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I had a fairly good experience with Kahn/Batdude's High Herald Tourney. Most of my favorite characters are in that tier, so it's easier for me to debate.


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i like all levels of tournaments. i DON'T like point systems and rules that are overly complex. i prefer little to no prep, but feel all right using either format. tourneys are a blast.


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High Meta, only because I'm more versed in characters at that level than any other.

No amalgams, very little prep.

I do enjoy point-based systems, though they're very, very hard to pull off well. I actually thought delph's tourney (at high meta, ironically) pulled it off well.


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The levels of creativity are surprisingly high in the Meta Class.


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id prefer street level as i could put real world knowledge to my advantage, not to mention some of my favs are streets


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id prefer street level as i could put real world knowledge to my advantage

Believe me, that's been tried and it doesn't work.


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High meta and below, teams and/or amalgams.

Limited/zero prep (in terms of building gadgets or bringing in all powerful toys)

I don't like rules that allow knowledge/abilities/weapoens/whatever being carried from one round to another as it gives unique and often unfair advantages on occasion.


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Originally posted by King Kandy
Believe me, that's been tried and it doesn't work.


Indeed. That does not, however, mean that is wouldn't be hilarious and awesome to see it tried again.

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High meta and below, teams and/or amalgams.

Limited/zero prep (in terms of building gadgets or bringing in all powerful toys)

I don't like rules that allow knowledge/abilities/weapoens/whatever being carried from one round to another as it gives unique and often unfair advantages on occasion.


In general, I agree. I tried to make the "potential loopholes" list as comprehensive as possible in the guide for tourney directors, so that a tourney host attempting to eliminate such powers doesn't accidentally miss some that can then be exploited.

Some tourneys have encouraged such insanity, however, and it's also been fun. Just more work, and it generally turns into whose prep the judges believe more, not who debates better or has the better squad.


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Meta level-Herald Level w/amalgams.

Meta level has a huge amount of characters to choose from and the herald level is always fun due to extensive powersets.


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Yeah i got to say high meta/herald level or amalgam, there are so many ways you could exploit them due to higher power set/level..


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Nah, anything past meta just gets silly. Anything more than about 30 seconds prep and you don't even have a chance unless you're bringing multiple world-busting prep ideas. And they're also the least accessible tourneys to newer members regardless of prep.


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Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I had a fairly good experience with Kahn/Batdude's High Herald Tourney. Most of my favorite characters are in that tier, so it's easier for me to debate.

If I were ever in a tourney, it'd probably be a HH tier tourney, too. For the same reason you listed.

I also think the point-system tournies look really fun and interesting. Would seem that drafts get more complex and...strategic?

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If I were ever in a tourney, it'd probably be a HH tier tourney, too. For the same reason you listed.

I also think the point-system tournies look really fun and interesting. Would seem that drafts get more complex and...strategic?


Yes, but there's also greater potential for exploitation, because it's impossible for a host to foresee all the permutations his point system allows. The system itself can become the loophole, even if specific "loophole" powers (duplication, speed force, power copying, etc.) are banned.

I love point system tourneys, so don't misunderstand. They're just trickier to pull of well.


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Yes, but there's also greater potential for exploitation, because it's impossible for a host to foresee all the permutations his point system allows. The system itself can become the loophole, even if specific "loophole" powers (duplication, speed force, power copying, etc.) are banned.

Yes, but as I would be the one doing the uber exploiting, I would be cool with it. big grin cool

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Yes, but as I would be the one doing the uber exploiting, I would be cool with it. big grin cool


Everyone thinks that.

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Yes, but there's also greater potential for exploitation, because it's impossible for a host to foresee all the permutations his point system allows. The system itself can become the loophole, even if specific "loophole" powers (duplication, speed force, power copying, etc.) are banned.

I love point system tourneys, so don't misunderstand. They're just trickier to pull of well.

Even a bad point system can be fun. People definitely haven't looked well on Evangel's tourney that tried it first, but I still think that was the best tourney I was in.


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^ which one?


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Um, the one that was point based. roll eyes (sarcastic)


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