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abhilegend
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Supergirl vs Wonder Woman

Pure slugfest. No skills, just trading punches untill one of them gets KOED. Preboot versions. Who wins?

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quanchi112
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WW all day long. Nice baiting though.

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They both agree there's no time for fighting when there's so much to do in the kitchen.

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They both agree there's no time for fighting when there's so much to do in the kitchen.

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Q99
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Wonder Woman solidly.

Power Girl would be a closer match.

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abhilegend
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Wonder Woman solidly.

Power Girl would be a closer match.

Why? We've seen Kara two piece Ultraman, Bizarro saying she is as strong as him, outperforming cyborg superman and the likes. She is certainly stronger/more durable than diana. FWIW she easily restrained Karen like Wonder Woman did.

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JakeTheBank
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Any instance of Supergirl outperforming Henshaw is either laced with plenty of context or just PIS.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Why? We've seen Kara two piece Ultraman, Bizarro saying she is as strong as him, outperforming cyborg superman and the likes. She is certainly stronger/more durable than diana. FWIW she easily restrained Karen like Wonder Woman did.

Supergirl also says in the next panel after the restraint that she's lucky PG isn't at a hundred yet. (And if we're talking restraints, WW could one-arm SG before she had training).

Early in Supergirl's book, PG attacks her and Supergirl internally says, "Damnit, I'm not used to dealing with people stronger than me." Exact quote.

And, well, Power Girl literally *is* an older, more muscular Supergirl. They're alternate versions with different exercise routines.

Remember, not all of us underrate Wonder Woman like you do. Some of us remember that when she went against a full no-holds back Superman she both took and dealt heavy damage (and that's talking purely muscle), or the time in For Tomorrow where they batted each other back and forth to no real damage. Or that against Doomsday War Doomsday, she took repeated hits where Martian Manhunter and Orion went down fast. Took literally four shots from the guy who one-shotted MM and was still going strong.

Superman under Casey pegs Wonder Woman, not anyone else, as his number 2 on Earth for a reason. Heck, John Byrne also had a mind controlled Superman state they were equal in power, which I think is stretching it, but some authors do rate them closer than I do.

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Heh.

Anyways, WW wins this.

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Diana, imo.

In general, I view the gap between Diana and Kara as being somewhat close to the gap between Clark and Diana.

If this turns in to the bait thread it looks like it was meant to be, heads will roll.

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abhilegend
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Supergirl also says in the next panel after the restraint that she's lucky PG isn't at a hundred yet.

Really? You could've fooled me.

http://imgur.com/TGbNZuC
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You reading words where none exist again? Surprise.

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(And if we're talking restraints, WW could one-arm SG before she had training).
That's because Supergirl was afraid of using her powers at that time. Just two issues later Superman and Batman said that she might be stronger than superman himself. Wonder Woman must be stronger than superman too, right?

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Early in Supergirl's book, PG attacks her and Supergirl internally says, "Damnit, I'm not used to dealing with people stronger than me." Exact quote.
The full quote, "She shouldn't be this strong."

http://i.imgur.com/aA5ejwF.jpg

Want to know why? Supergirl made her stronger because of her presence.

http://imgur.com/C9Jy2G0

Context, context.

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And, well, Power Girl literally *is* an older, more muscular Supergirl. They're alternate versions with different exercise routines.
And yet Kara's record against top tiers like Ultraman (two times), Lobo, Superman, Titan Tomorrow Superman is far better than Karen.

http://i.imgur.com/aRy4FC3.jpg

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Remember, not all of us underrate Wonder Woman like you do. Some of us remember that when she went against a full no-holds back Superman she both took and dealt heavy damage (and that's talking purely muscle), or the time in For Tomorrow where they batted each other back and forth to no real damage.
Kara nearly knocked out Superman in three hits and Superman thought she is going to kill him.

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Superman going to think Kara is going to beat him to death is better than anything wonder woman has done against him. I don't want to dissect your illusions about Sacrifice or For Tomorrow again. I've done it enough times already.

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Or that against Doomsday War Doomsday, she took repeated hits where Martian Manhunter and Orion went down fast. Took literally four shots from the guy who one-shotted MM and was still going strong.
Kara literally choked J'onn out with one hand.

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/.../martianout.jpg
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Superman under Casey pegs Wonder Woman, not anyone else, as his number 2 on Earth for a reason.
Kelly. He deemed Ultraman his equal under Kelly, Kara knocked him out in two hits.[/quote]

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Heck, John Byrne also had a mind controlled Superman state they were equal in power, which I think is stretching it, but some authors do rate them closer than I do.

Chris Claremont did. But he made J'onn his equal in power too and then said that wonder woman was beneath J'onn. Superman was weakened there too.

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abhilegend
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Originally posted by -Pr-
Diana, imo.

In general, I view the gap between Diana and Kara as being somewhat close to the gap between Clark and Diana.

If this turns in to the bait thread it looks like it was meant to be, heads will roll.

I just created a thread among two characters which are peers. Why is this a bait thread?

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DarkSaint85
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Lol@ choking a shapeshifter who can go intangible, and can breathe in space.

Wait, they're on the moon! With no atmosphere! Oh, DC....

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abhilegend
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Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Any instance of Supergirl outperforming Henshaw is either laced with plenty of context or just PIS.

Why? Supergirl is certainly stronger than Hank.

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abhilegend
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Bizarro has also said Kara is as strong as him.

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/...ct/bizpunch.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/...t/bizpunch2.jpg

She has destroyed a moon at near light speed which is better than any single strength feat from diana.

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/...ct/moonbust.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/...t/moonbust2.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/...t/moonbust3.jpg

She has also survived a planet exploding.

Sorry, not seeing how Diana is stronger or more durable by either statements or feats. At best she is equally as strong and less durable by comparison to PG and SG.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
I just created a thread among two characters which are peers. Why is this a bait thread?

Because you've shown a lack of objectivity when it comes to Wonder Woman.

The fact that this thread is still open means I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt. How long it stays open, is up to you.

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Lol@ choking a shapeshifter who can go intangible, and can breathe in space.

Wait, they're on the moon! With no atmosphere! Oh, DC....

What else did you expect from Martian Manjobber?

Google actually has results for "Manjobber", all redirect to comic forums