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ravenous vs hulk

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who wins?


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Ravenous, but it's one hell of a fight.


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Hulk wins. the fight might last a few panels but, ultimately Hulk will annihilate Ravenous.

Surfer destroyed a planet to give an indication of the kind of power he could have brought to bear upon Ravenous. the implication was that Ravenous wouldn't survive such a powerful attack. Hulk can tear apart a planet with his bare hands...


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Originally posted by janus77
Hulk wins. the fight might last a few panels but, ultimately Hulk will annihilate Ravenous.

Surfer destroyed a planet to give an indication of the kind of power he could have brought to bear upon Ravenous. the implication was that Ravenous wouldn't survive such a powerful attack. Hulk can tear apart a planet with his bare hands...


He has yet to do so.

Ravenous and the seekers survived the Surfer's initial attack.


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Hulk wins. the fight might last a few panels but, ultimately Hulk will annihilate Ravenous.

Surfer destroyed a planet to give an indication of the kind of power he could have brought to bear upon Ravenous. the implication was that Ravenous wouldn't survive such a powerful attack. Hulk can tear apart a planet with his bare hands...

ravenous still survived his skirmish with surfer after surfers planet busting feat, he seemed fairly unscathed


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he held together a planet, that's clearly enough strength to get the job done. his steps almost broke the eastern seaboard, again more than enough evidence of capability.

Surfer's initial attack isn't one that would have put down The Hulk, given that Hulk's durability > Surfer's with respect to what we saw when both passed through the Sakaar wormhole.


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ravenous still survived his skirmish with surfer after surfers planet busting feat, he seemed fairly unscathed

it wasn't Surfer's intention to kill or mortally wound Ravenous, more to just demonstrate the level of power Surfer could have applied upon Ravenous directly, that and to demonstrate Surfer's seriousness/ruthlessness.

Ravenous is left stunned and bowed by the demonstration, he clearly feels far inferior afterwards.


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. his steps almost broke the eastern seaboard, again more than enough evidence of capability.


this isnt ww hulk


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it wasn't Surfer's intention to kill or mortally wound Ravenous, more to just demonstrate the level of power Surfer could have applied upon Ravenous directly, that and to demonstrate Surfer's seriousness/ruthlessness.

Ravenous is left stunned and bowed by the demonstration, he clearly feels far inferior afterwards.

good points, but theres a difference in opponents here
annihilation surfer>>>>>>>>>>>>hulk?


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WWH is just a label for the arc, Hulk was just very angry, that's all.


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good points, but theres a difference in opponents here
annihilation surfer>>>>>>>>>>>>hulk?

yes but Hulk's strength is far far greater, and as Ravenous is not going to do anything other than brawl, Hulk will have an easier time of it against Ravenous than Surfer who prefers to blast & dodge than brawl.


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WWH is just a label for the arc, Hulk was just very angry, that's all.


some people interpret wwh hulk separate from the regular hulk like war hulk do you smile
but you also have to take into account hulk low feats then,if wwhulk=reg hulk.


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some people interpret wwh hulk separate from the regular hulk like war hulk do you smile
but you also have to take into account hulk low feats then,if wwhulk=reg hulk.

of course that is a given, but we have to also appreciate the powerset and established capabilities of the character, and admit the place of "PIS and CIS" in low showings (Hulk suffocating, for example! - we know that he adapts automatically to his environment - space/ocean floor).

it's difficult to see how you can separate out WWH from regular Hulk. it's just Hulk being really angry, no power ups or mystical artefacts. just a very bad mood.

War Hulk was special because of two things 1) the fact that Hulk was channelling two universes, as their nexus point and 2) that Apocalypse used Celestial Technology to regulate the energies and stabilise them to a high base level.

it is a basic fact that the character's strength is limitless, that his other attributes are pegged to his strength, thus ...


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WWH is also smarter than Savage Hulk.


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this conflict doesn't involve prep. also Hulk's often been smart when fighting, whether Savage Hulk or Professor Hulk, he's always had that.


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WWHulk pfft...... 10 years ago, the Hulk smashed Onslaught, who has Ravenous taken? Ronan broke his face with his universal hammer, while the Hulk has taken hits to the face by Thor's hammer without being opened up.

I think the Hulk has proven on many occasions that he hits harder than Ronan. If anyone doubts this check out his respect thread.


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WWHulk pfft...... 10 years ago, the Hulk smashed Onslaught, who has Ravenous taken? Ronan broke his face with his universal hammer, while the Hulk has taken hits to the face by Thor's hammer without being opened up.

I think the Hulk has proven on many occasions that he hits harder than Ronan. If anyone doubts this check out his respect thread.

hulk has been ko'd by cap and iron man thought and ww hulk was taken out by a satellite,while ravenous was ko'd by ronans universal hammer which is bullshit imo seeing as he withstood blows from surfer in their first battle and the exploding planet.


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WWHulk pfft...... 10 years ago, the Hulk smashed Onslaught, who has Ravenous taken? Ronan broke his face with his universal hammer, while the Hulk has taken hits to the face by Thor's hammer without being opened up.

I think the Hulk has proven on many occasions that he hits harder than Ronan. If anyone doubts this check out his respect thread.


Ronan broke his hammer on Ravenous' face....

10 years ago? okay....so ?


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hulk has been ko'd by cap and iron man thought and ww hulk was taken out by a satellite,while ravenous was ko'd by ronans universal hammer which is bullshit imo seeing as he withstood blows from surfer in their first battle and the exploding planet.


Well in forum battles, going by the best showings are permissible, and if this is the truth we can begin with an impact that opened an dimensional rift (by Hulks own hands).

If we were to go by powers; Hulk's powers alone make him one of the most tenacious characters in comics, while Ravenous passes out because he gets opened up by Ronan's universal weapon, the Hulk laughs at getting his eyes cut out.

Lets talk toughness Ravenous has shown that he isn't that tough, while the Hulk took a blast that burned right through him by Zom/Strange and was up two panels later. You call BS when it favors your argument, while Captain America has no business beating the Hulk, Thanos was also hand cuffed and carted away to prison. Bringing these points up makes your argument weak at best because of the CIS rule.

Ironman... whatever! that was also a weaker and smaller Hulk than the one portrayed in comics today. The Hulk of today would peel that Ironman out of his suit like an orange, unless of course you believe it's more powerful than the Hulkbuster suit that was trashed.

Again I must reiterate that you are calling BS to suit your own case.. it is far more likely that Ronan could pop Ravenous' mellon with the Universal Weapon, than Captain America KOing the Hulk (now that was BS).


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