Kun: still believes himself dedicated to the Light even though he finds himself blocked to it.
Oh, I'm sorry, I guess the concept of context escapes you.
And this is a quote from what? And this says what about his natural power? Nothing?
Contruct a sentence and then get back to me.
Not surprising, you've failed to grasp a point.
On the one hand you have Luke who destroyed inanimate objects while still connected to his body and not insane.
On the other hand we have Kun who also destroyed inanimate objects while seperated from his body for 4000 years and half-insane.
Hm. Looks like his feat is laid to waste.
Oh ho, so it isn't from the same source material? Looks like your claim is questionable then, especially since you refuse to provide context.
Oh, you mean Darth "Dictator for Life" Sidious who could merely have ordered his citizens out of the general area (at least for the time being) and mind-wiped those who remained?
Right, that one.
Mostly because the Light was blocked to him and he was still a Jedi Knight and had not embraced the dark side?
Oh, and stop inserting your unsupported assumptions: There aren't any sobs depicted.
Oh, it worked on Killiks? Provide the quote then, I'm sure we're all on the edges of our seats now that you've found the only other instance of Luke using the trick.
Wow, Luke knows force lightning... Count Dooku knows it too, is he a Force god?
Yaddle knew Mortichro. Is she a Force goddess? Oh, and remind me again how Mortichro is lethal? It isn't? Remind me again how it can't be resisted? Oh, it can?
Huh.
No, Luke, Palpatine's, Leia's, and unborn Anakin's "shockwaves" were felt.
Oh, and the retcons exist in the little comic series called TOTJ. I don't know if you've ever heard of it? It establishes a whole host of beings more powerful than Palpatine or Skywalker.
I hope you know that "proof" is not a verb (at least not in the context under which you use it).
Apparently the Jedi thought they were needed, inasmuch as they went. And Kun ran? First I've heard of it. Wow, Kun didn't try to fight the most powerful, concentrated force of Light Siders the galaxy has ever seen singlehandedly. What a fool and a weakling he must have been since he didn't even try to fight thousands upon thousands of Jedi orbiting above his moon!
Oh, wait. That would've been stupid.
Oh, and Kun was felt by them. Or did we forget that Kun's outcry (described by Ulic: "A sound... like a man being eaten alive... or is it the wind?) as he is healed caused Master Arca to stop in mid-speech as the entire assembly of Jedi on Deneba heard him?
Oops. Funny, Kun's power alone was heard by all the Jedi, whereas it took a battle between Luke and Sidious (well, and Leia and Anakin) for them to be felt by Force-sensitives. Looks like Kun outweighs them by this logic.
Looks like you're ignoring the fact that Brakiss was sent running by a couple of droids and got blown up when some Royal Guard pretenders set his ship to explode.
That and Luke didn't even fight him, apparently.
How are they different? Less matter, for one. There's also the fact that it's still mere telekinesis, and Kyp still replicated the feat.
And it's still irrelevant misdirection. Kun has telekinesis as well.
Problem is you've failed to grasp context. Sadow's (and Aleema's) illusions were tangible and could hurt/kill enemies. They required him to maintain constant concentration. This is in contrast to Luke's trick with the planet, which didn't require his own power and thus was less impressive a feat because of it.
Actually, "bad choreography" means they fought like shit. I guess Vader's emotional conflict (even mentioned explicitly by Luke) means nothing, either?
Sure, Luke's powerful in comparison to everybody else... which is to say, nobody. Who else was around to compare him to? Joruus, maybe? Screwball Joruus?
I guess I must have imagined Yoda lifting an X-Wing out of the swamp without apparent exertion on his part.
Well if you truly know how to debate, why do you keep bringing up irrelevant misdirections?
If you truly know how to read, why do you show no apparent reading comprehension and reply with inanities to my points?
Here, I'll post it again: A feat that no other could possibly replicate if put into identical circumstances! Oh, wait... I guess they could.
Try again. I'll be back later to see if you've grasped anything.
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So? It's still Kun running away. Luke is able to take down the Noghri during the Thrawn trilogy and the Ssi-Ruuk days after Endor.
Jacen, TUF? Ganner, Traitor? Jacen who became one with the Force and anniilated Onimi? You're arguing becoming one with the force doesn't equal power?
Ahhh, translation: "I can't respond! Insult time!"
One artifact cannot be used to harm you-the holocron...the other...can. Huh, fancy that!
What the hell are you talking about? Luke communicates with the crystals in Planet of Twilight.
Oh yes...evacuate Coruscant...and the Imperial city? Sorry, he still froze it, NEXT!
Kun: I'm not ready to die! Help me!...yeah, that's what we call sobbing for help
Can Dooku kill an opponent in one blast of FL? Luke uses it in the Dark Nest trilogy, find it.
Aleema's illusions could hurt people! BULLSHIT! At MOST they sent people into shock. Proof Sadow's injuries could hurt...anyone? Right, none!
More pwoerful? Where's the retcon! PROOF! PROOF! Oh, that's right, you don't have it! Because TOTJ never says so and so is stronger than any character from the movies! Nor does it retcon ANYTHING from DE! Luke, Leia and Anakin were felt? BULLSHIT! Sorry! But I provided the quote where it specifically stated it was Luke and Palp were felt, NOTHING ABOUT LEIA! In fact, it says she couldn't do ANYTHING to interfere!
If Kun could use a force storm? He'd have cleaned up the Jedi fleet. Proof the Jedi were needed? I want a QUOTE that says every Jedi in the entire galaxy is necessary to stop Kun...and yeah, Kun prepared the draining ritual to escape the Jedi. Great, the Jeid felt a disturbance in the Force! Was Kun's POWER being felt? No? Ok then! Was Kun';s power making people drop dead in their tracks? No? Ok then!
Brakiss left because his plans were ruined, he didn't believe in Kueller's ideals and yeah, whoever could die from being blown up! Wow! He STILL manipulated a star and Luke didn't fight him? BULLSHIT! The last book of the first series of the Young JEdi Knights books. Luke demolishes him.
Oh, my god! Kun had telekensis! When did he move black holes and space ships? That's right, he didn't!
Bad choreography. I guess Kun is deformed because of the art in TOTJ and that's not even touching on Freedon Nadd Uprising's art. And actually? Luke's described as incredibly powerful. Period.
SO...an X-wing is like an AT AT or a Star Destroyer?
Irrelevant misdirection? You're one to talk. POut up or shut up: Where did Kun do a thing close to the levels of power Palp have shown? Or even Luke? When was Kun described as anything close to what they've been? When did he show anything without wearing those gauntlets of his? When'd he tear apart the fabric of space? When was he felt by EVERY force senseitive over the galaxy-not just Jedi, and their power-just theirs- was killing people in the near vicinity.
Try again, IKC...or go back to drooling over Kun's ponytail. I could have statements from KJA and you'd argue with even him...and no explanation to what this retcon even was or how it was carried out....and here's the best part: In the book, Palpatine is said to know all known techniques, previously unknown ones and invents new ones at his pleasure. Hm!
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