I don't remember Spectre ever going to the Source Wall in any of the actual COIE issues. And while I don't have them in front of me right now, I've got a pretty darn good memory. If you're absolutely sure Spectre visited the Source Wall during COIE, can you tell me which issue this occurred?
Um. Those scans don't show him going to the Source Wall at all. They only confirm my memories of COIE. Spectre just sat back in the positive matter universe, powerless to do anything. Nothing there says anything about waiting for Anti-Monitor to powerup or become a threat so that he might finally intervene. The reason Spectre had to wait for so long is because Spectre couldn't go to the antimatter universe and was worthless throughout most of COIE. He had to wait until Anti-Monitor showed up at the beginning of creation where there was no anti-matter to interfere with his magic.
The Source Wall is at the beginning of time he went beyond that and tried to interfere with The Source creating creation. I'm sure the scan is around here somewhere where it shows AM talking about going pass the wall and used up all his energy doing so and joined with the heroes for more power.
It seems that way since you are pulling stuff out of nowhere
1.I'm not flaming and not trying to look people bad . Users such as yourself make themselves look bad due to their replies .
2.As a matter of fact no , that must be your definition of stupid . Just because somebody thinks differently doesn't mean he is stupid . But I guess in your opinion it is so I feel sad for you .
Counter what ? The fact that you think people brag to their friends how they owned somebody in a comics discussion ? That's so pathetic You don't even know what we're talking about
I clicked copy instead of cut
I don't insult . I make remarks . Some people just can't handle the truth .
Why exactly would I need to look there when I already know its power ?
It's logical that there is a difference between knowledge and intelligence . But you lack both .
That's kinda funny
Nobody erased the DC Omniverse yet there are plenty in Marvel that have ? As a matter of fact the DC Omniverse has been erased while in Marvel not even Thanos erased the Omniverse .
"I can reach out and feel the dreams and aspirations of every living being in the entire Universe"
And there are many other instances where it's reffered to as Universal power . You think that several instances where it's shown affecting the universe from far mean it's Multiversal ? Nope . I think you fail to see the concept of what Multiversal power truly means in comics,at least in my opinion. It implies being able to create and destroy an entire Multiverse , to have control over one not the quite pathetic feats compared to a being with truly multiversal power that the Infinity Gauntley has done .
For example a being is able to create or destroy a Multiverse , and another being is able to affect 2 Universes . Are they equal since supposdley according to you Multiversal ? No .
Last edited by Philosophía on Aug 24th, 2007 at 09:35 AM
First of all I'd like a link to the scan or at least an issue number where this is stated . And even if it did , how exactly does this help your case ? How exactly does this prove that if he was there he couldn't destroy Earth 616 Universe ?
Now you're pretty much just assuming that Reed reffered to the Omniverse or Multiverse when he said Universe , which is illogical .
I know it was reffering to the Mind Gem since I didn't copy and paste those links . That was the whole point , the Mind Gem only has Universal control , thus why would the other ones be different ?
Actually it's "They are the Ultimate in Power , the darkest secret in the universe" . So again , it's reffered to be universal in power and the darkest secret within the Universe .
You do know that you've just beaten yourself with that image ?
It says all the Universe is but clay in my hands" , thus Thanos clearly stating that he has Universal power . Clear and stated .
And again , why would one gem be Universal while other Multiversal ? Does that sound consistent to you ?
I really hope you're not saying that's Multiversal power . I see nothing beyond mere Universal power . He could have controlled one Universe so that it merged with the other . What is Multiversal about this ? Come back to me when he merges 2 Multiverses
And this is Multiversal how exactly ? First of all , it's debatable if the UN erased the Multiverse , which I can simply counter with resonable explination and proof . Second , we don't really know how much power output the UN put then when aiming twoards him . And third , turning the weapon upon it's bearer doesn't really mean that he is stronger than the UN .
Proof .
Conquering and having the power to destroy a Multiverse (Without a chain reaction like destroying the Earth 616 Universe and then the others follow) are 2 very different things .
Same as above
Again , how is this Multiversal power ? Did they create Multiverses back to back ? No . Just Universes .
As I said , this most defenitly means destroying Earth 616 Universe and then a chain reaction .
This points have already been adressed and the following one doesn't really prove anything .
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I don't remember Spectre ever going to the Source Wall in any of the actual COIE issues. And while I don't have them in front of me right now, I've got a pretty darn good memory. If you're absolutely sure Spectre visited the Source Wall during COIE, can you tell me which issue this occurred?
Aug 23rd, 2007 10:25 PM
