The tiara has cut through force fields and damaged durable beings before. When using the lasso as make shift knuckle dusters, she's also punched through Green Lantern constructs, and has done so before through her own strength.
There's also evidence to suggest that directly attempting to disarm or transmute the lasso would fail.
Skyfathers have failed to one shot Diana. Other herald beings have likewise failed to one shot her. Given her default durability and her bracers, it's pretty ridiculous to assume that Surfer could. Hell, most of the arguments for Surfer is him going all exotic and pulling out random abilities to beat Diana. Typical "fly around shooting blasts" Surfer has it incredibly difficult to win.
Diana is also a far better combatant. Surfer can hurt Diana to be sure, but Diana's not going to let him, either.
If a skyfather failed to one shot Diana, it's either PIS or because the skyfather wasn't actually trying to kill him.
Most would agree Superman could hurt her. Surfer blasts are > Supermans fists, as Surfer is > Superman, imo...
Basically, I put Surfer and Infinity Man on the same tier. High herald, low trans, above your top tier character at their best when written correctly.. (And the reason Thor is a good match, is because his hammers power are > Thor the character, and can match or exceed his ridiculous power set..) Surfer certainly has the feats and power set to place him in that position, looking at his long history..
Surfer has also 3-shotted BRB, has casually dusted a planet as a warning and has indeed beaten a skyfather and taken his power against his will (UniLord).
Surfer shouldn't really be troubled by WW, imo. I don't see her getting a single win, if Surfer fights as per forum norms. If, on the other hand, he's fighting like he's about to be arm-barred by BP or knocked out by a brick ...
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the bracers can save her from a lot of his energy attacks though. i won't entirely disagree on your opinion of ss, just that magic has hurt him--badly--in the past and her strengths serve her well in this fight.
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I have no doubt that she could hurt him with the tiara but frankly, her offensive attempts with the tiara leave her open for his attacks. If she is busy defending his energy attacks, board attack becomes much more effective. Also at range her being ability to mount an offensive with the tiara is highly reduced. For the lasso disarmament thing, Surfer could literally blink and encase it in some sort of substance or encase her in some sort of substance quite frankly. Hence the reason I think it is difficult to defend against. You are right for the in close part as well though cuz in close he would have the element of surprise and could probably end the fight quicker since she would have less time to block attacks
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Just to point out that im not suggesting Surfer to try to transmute the lasso. Rather entrap it in something to temporarily prevent her from accessing it.
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Who's saying he one-shots?
I think you're confusing people countering the notion that he's somehow 'weak' at cqc/h2h battle, with evidence that he would one-shot her.
Personally I would expect him to KO her with a few good blasts, and a board to the back of the head. I just see Surfer's average as being that much higher than her's.
He's taken more damage than any herald leveller (bar Hulk), that I've seen, during his tangle with T&A. He's also been smashed to atoms and reformed instantly (UniLord) to over power a dimensional god (basically a skyfather)...
Fair enough, but even then, the nature of the lasso's properties, it being a focal point of "truth" and the like, such a method of attempting to entrap it or somehow, especially while it's in her possession, is something I can't say seems really likely. At best, I could see it holding it for a few moments, but that wouldn't be a game changer if Diana was without it for that long by any means.
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I understand that, but that whole focal point of truth thing is fairly ambiguous. I mean I can't really see any connection Between being the focal point of truth and being immune to entrapment. I mean I understand it's magical properties making it immune to straight transmutation and I wouldn't suggest that in the same way I wouldn't suggest surfer transmuting Odin or galactus'. But entrapment is a whole different story id say as even charActers of this level have been entrapped temporarily ( surfer on tud and Odin by thanes) and even thors hammer another magical object has been entrapped by surfer as well.
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Where does he say that? I looked, he never said Surfer could one-shot Diana. No one's blowing things out of proportions (unless you count the people who make false accusations).
I think surfer is the more powerful being, but he isnt really going to be able to drain diana and his ranged attacks are going to be nullified by her braclets. I think diana has a decent shot at this. She will fair better against surfer then superman would.
Diana has the tools to defend against surfer unlike other bricks.
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