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you couldn't vaporise the earth and maintain in in a localised gas ball similar to the gas giants because of its chemical make up...Its iron core will simply, under its own mass and thus its own gravitational force, be pulled into a solid mass as would the rest of the earths elemental and molecular make up.

unless you somehow propose to change the chemical balance of the earths contents so that under its current mass it would remain at a point where its pressure and gravity allow its chemical content to remain in a gaseous phase in space. then it would simply reform to a solid mass again

and the energy required to break the chemical bonds of the earths current molecular make up and then reform it into an entirely different chemical make up would be quite astronomical

so effectively what i'm saying is that whereas jupiter and saturn and predominantly hydrogen and uranus contain high proportions of methane and ammonia....they exist is gas phase because the balance between the pressure cause by it mass/gravity in balance with the temperature these pressures create...mean it exists as a gas..although uranus and neptune's atmophere's effectively solidify during their equivalent of winter and thus change their diameters


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The energy to "explode" the Earth is therefore like a million billion Shoemaker-Levy comets (the whole of each comet, not fragments) striking our planet...if they struck all over the surface in wave after wave, that seems like more than enough ka-boom to turn us into plasma...
To continue our Fun With Numbers...

The surface area of the Earth is about 200 million square miles. The diameter of the original, intact Shoemaker-Levy comet is estimated to be about 5 miles (a conservative estimate). This means, for comets to be striking--at once--every square mile of the Earth's surface, the first wave would contain about 40 million comets. If we hold constant at 40 million per wave, we're talking about 25 million waves.

That's gotta hurt.


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To continue our Fun With Numbers...

The surface area of the Earth is about 200 million square miles. The diameter of the original, intact Shoemaker-Levy comet is estimated to be about 5 miles (a conservative estimate). This means, for comets to be striking--at once--every square mile of the Earth's surface, the first wave would contain about 40 million comets. If we hold constant at 40 million per wave, we're talking about 25 million waves.

That's gotta hurt.


eek!
wow, go earth


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To continue our Fun With Numbers...

The surface area of the Earth is about 200 million square miles. The diameter of the original, intact Shoemaker-Levy comet is estimated to be about 5 miles (a conservative estimate). This means, for comets to be striking--at once--every square mile of the Earth's surface, the first wave would contain about 40 million comets. If we hold constant at 40 million per wave, we're talking about 25 million waves.

That's gotta hurt.


I feel scared now . . .


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No one knows what gravity actually is, so the whole idea is science fiction.

As the equilibrium of the earth would be broken if it was turned to gas, it probably wouldn´t come back together again.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weakly...assive_particle

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If we hold constant at 40 million per wave, we're talking about 25 million waves.
At a steady rate of 1 comet-wave every 2 seconds, this assault would take a year and 8 months to complete. smokin'


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At a steady rate of 1 comet-wave every 2 seconds, this assault would take a year and 8 months to complete. smokin'


LOL

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the empty bit is, but there are still little bits flying around the space between them is just rather large.

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the empty bit is, but there are still little bits flying around the space between them is just rather large.


thats only the matter though

gravity, energy, dark matter/energy, radiation, all of those things make space not a vaccum. Gravity and radiation are pretty much everywhere in the universe, and dark energy is probably as well.


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this is my retarded idea. a gravity enhancer. so you could train in heightened gravity. like the way they do it in dbz. so it would tone the muscles instead of just growing them. this way you could be super strong and not have your veins pop because ur so big.


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im sure there are a hundred different problems with the idea, starting with how to generate it. im sure mike can instantly figure out why im a complete idiot or so can one of the other genius's. hit me


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Why not just wear a weighted suit to mimic the effect of stronger gravity? An arm throwing a punch won't know the difference.


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Why not just wear a weighted suit to mimic the effect of stronger gravity? An arm throwing a punch won't know the difference.


The reasoning against that is that it can be very dangerous to a person trying to do it. The greater mass makes training while wearing heavy weights clumsy and may cause amounts of strain that can damage muscles.


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Why not just wear a weighted suit to mimic the effect of stronger gravity? An arm throwing a punch won't know the difference.


Because objects will not fall as fast...even IF they weight more...in the same gravity environment.

Also, our bodies are not designed for higher gravity...they are designed for the gravity that we live in.

Also, heavier arms equals greater inertia upon impact....it would be hilarious to punch someone across the room....assuming that you don't punch a hole through them.


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Why not just wear a weighted suit to mimic the effect of stronger gravity? An arm throwing a punch won't know the difference.


cause that would limit the effect to skeletal muscles...a higher gravitational pull would effect the entire body...just as a lesser gravity effects astronauts who are on space stations for long periods by weakening them...an increase would hav the opposite effect


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So you are saying we would become stronger in higher gravity? eek!

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Supernova explosions would vaporize any planets in the system.


You're scientifically ignorant.

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So you are saying we would become stronger in higher gravity? eek!
not necessarily, your body is just used to combatting a stranger force. It doesn't mean you will absolutely be stronger


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So you are saying we would become stronger in higher gravity? eek!


Yes but at the expense of your Fibrocartilage. I would say that even double Earth's gravity would cause pain in the joints in just a few days. What good is it to be in that state when you can't stay in it for very long? However, It remains to be seen and I could be wrong. Our bodies may work just fine in an environment like that and it would just take half the time to wear away our cartilage in double gravity. (Like 25 years instead of 50 years...etc.)

I would be willing to try it for fun.

Having diarrhea in double gravity would be pretty shitty, though.


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You are correct, however, this has nothing to do with science. It is science fiction.
lmao its physics.


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