If you only care about corruption by those you view as your political enemies then you don't actually care about political corruption. You care about political point scoring.
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I feel like it would be so damn tiring to care about political corruption, it happens so damn often from every side.
I just was curious if they felt Ilhan was corrupt.
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But if people were to start with their own reps they could never ever talk about others
it's all corrupt lol
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hard to argue trump should release his taxes while that delaware college blocks the release of biden documents
and no they aren't blocking tax documents, but they are blocking transparency...which is the entire argument behind releasing the tax docs
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Why not? Your representative might be a member of the party you support.
You may support the party's policies and vote for their presidential nominee but refrain from voting for your state or district candidates cos you think or know they're corrupt.
I may be making a colossally dumb assumption about US ballot papers and that if you vote for a Democrat president that you automatically vote democrat as your state senator.
If someone can also enlighten me on the issue that was reported of people going to electronic voting machines and only being able to press the candidate for the party they were registered as.
Over here you just register to vote. You don't register an allegiance to a party
We also don't vote for a prime minister.
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Voters who registered to vote without stating a political party preference are known as No Party Preference (NPP) voters. ... For presidential primary elections: NPP voters will receive a “non-partisan” ballot that does not include presidential candidates.
It's different state by state, for example in Missouri I can vote anyway I want for any party as long as I simply register to vote.
I could vote green party councilman , democrat state senate, republican gov. States are given a certain amount of autonomy on how the setup their voting system.
Realistically it would be better if all the states followed Missouri style voting, pick up rank choice (we dont have that yet) and fixed gerrymandering (mo is working on that as well with an indepenant group.)
That reads like nobody would be on the ballot. Isn't everyone on a presidential primary a presidential candidate?
I mean it's different over here. There aren't primary elections. When it comes to electing who would be a prime minister they would be elected as party leader only by party members. Same applies to opposition parties. Their leader is elected by party members then they can become prime minister in the general election.
So Boris Johnson and Theresa May both became prime minister before they won a general election because their party won the previous election and the leader resigned during their term (David Cameron resigned because he campaigned to remain in the EU and lost so May took over and Boris took over cos May resigned because she couldn't get the Brexit deal through parliament)
See now that I'm writing it down our system seems just as bonkers.
Maybe more so given we have elections at 4 different levels of government (local councils, devolved parliaments, UK parliament (Westminster) and the European parliament (although not anymore) and they all have different voting formats.
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In the primary, if you want to vote for a certain candidate, you have to register in their party. eg If you wanted to vote for Yang to win the nomination, you have to register as Democrat. I believe it's to keep counter-voters out. But it still sounds lame.
In the general election, you can vote from whomever regardless of your party.
Yeah, there's some serious shit-rules. I registered Democrat so I could vote for Sanders. Will be going back to Independant next year.
That seems more sensible and far less susceptible to corruption.
In the UK, once you're registered to vote that should be you set to vote for life. You shouldn't have to register for every election and you have to write to the electoral roll to have yourself removed if you so wish (it helps some people to avoid debt collection agencies as it makes them harder to trace. Helps stop spam mail as private companies can pay for copies of the electoral roll. Helps abused spouses hide from abusive partners because private individuals can pay for a copy etc)
Anyway, I digress.
In the run up to every election a lot of people find themselves mysteriously removed from the electoral register and the excuse is that it's always administrative errors. Strange that it only ever happens in large numbers in areas who traditionally vote against the current government.
Now in a system where every voter's preference is pre registered how easy would it be to remove voters of only one political persuasion?
Seems rife for corruption to me. Not to mention massively undemocratic. Imagine registering to vote for a party and being unable to change your mind between registering and actually voting.
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We have a website here called VoteForPolicies that has different categories like economic, environmental, justice, society etc and they give you a brief description of a published policy (usually from a party's manifesto) without naming the party. You then pick all the ones you agree with. At the end you then pick from the shortlisted ones you picked in round one.
Once you've gone through the shortlisting and the final best suited policy you get a pie chart showing what % of policies you picked by party.
It's good but it's not fool proof because if you have a reasonable knowledge of the party's pledges you can usually figure out which party the policy belongs.
It's good for swing voters though. It can help them make up their minds.
It's also more useful than things like Political Compass during elections because it pertains to actual policy commitments rather than more broad values
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