That said, even if there's a growth (which there may well be) it's likely a consequence of an overall market growth, where comics are very likely to overshadowed by manga in the U.S. according to NPD Bookscan's report.
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You may think this is because manga is comparatively small in the U.S. but it isn't.
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No, because the reports aren't solely based off Diamond's numbers but also on ICV2, this is made clear on the site Whirly linked.
Last edited by Astner on Dec 2nd, 2022 at 10:31 AM
First and foremost, I don't have feelings one way or the other on this particular subject. I don't care about the comic industry, and I don't care about the manga industry. I read the books I want to check out, that's it.
That said, I don't think you understood my argument.
You guys are arguing the number of titles that are shipped (sold to independent retailers), but the actual numbers those stores sell is in the absolute toilet. The truth is, most retailers have giant piles of unsold comics rotting on their shelves that they are forced to try and sell at a discount.
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1. The numbers are increasing year on year. If what you say is true, after a couple/three years the shops would be out of money - or else, maybe they're turning a profit even with those discounted titles;
2. The numbers include digital sales too. Maybe brick and mortar comic shops are doing badly, but it's different online, much like any other media (record shops being a prime example).
Edit: maybe the numbers aren't adjusted for inflation? I don't know
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Last edited by DarkSaint85 on Dec 2nd, 2022 at 12:46 PM
Are you drunk? He made an objective assertion, whether it's objectively right or objectively wrong is beside the point. If you say, "the ball is red," that's not your opinion, it's an objective assertion that can be verified or falsified.
That said, he's correct in that Diamond only distributes comics to resellers, and not to the direct market.
That's always been the case. There's never been any room to profit as a comic book store. That said, it looks like they're ordering more from Diamond now than ever before, so...
I blame old comicbook readers from not becoming fans of woke teenager angst and shitty dialogue in their late years, imagine how bigger the industry would grow if you guys got more confused about your identities *shrugs*
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Dec 2nd, 2022 09:53 AM
It does.
