Post counts are kinda formal and lead to tediously long winded posts, I'd rather just have a time limit(like a week or so). I'm involved in a tourney and the rough draft for my opening post was 15,000 chacters long just to give you an example of that type of debate. I mean we can do that kind of thing if you really want(I know you've never been in a tourney and might be interested in that type of structure), but just know there's very little in the way of "back and forth action" so it probably won't be very fun for either of us.
my intro post was basically "Superman is too fast and too strong. He blitzes Surfer's head off."
I'm in favor of a post limit because I don't want to be simply overwhelmed by opposing posts. Also, limited posts allow for a perhaps more organized debate that both contestants and judges will appreciate. A complete back and forth may be more entertaining but will also be more messy, prone to going to tangents, and hard to follow.
anyways, we can discuss this more later. I'm tired.
One of his latest feats was creating blast so strong that it spurred up a black hole that was seen light years away and thanos even had to flee. Again, these were mere blast.
Sounds cool, I'll be around tomorrow so we can talk about it then.
In fairness to Blair though, if we go with the post count we'll have to wait until I'm done with the tourney. Essay posts take time and I'd feel bad if Blair and I lost the tourney because I was trying to divide my attention between the workloads. We can still do it of course, it'll just be a bit before I'm avalible.
How the hell should I know? I'd assume its about the same as Superman using his myriad of powers instead of just his fists the next time he fights a brick. Same goes for Thor.
In the end, the only "odds" that really matter are the odds that each character gets a writer who knows the extent of the characters powersets and is creative enough to use them thoroughly. For the purposes of this forum, SS would have to fight like a mentally impaired lemur and forget to use most of his established powers for Superman to stand a chance.
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but still reppin naija
Surfer has drained his exact equal in power in seconds. Its not a long process at all. Regardless that is a different point altogether with nothing to do with the ruin incident which i have shown to be invalid.
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but superman has on panel showings of deciding to stop playing around. you're talking about a very specific combat maneuvre.
so he's going to: examine superman to find out that he's powered by the sun. come up with a way to absorb days worth of stored solar energy in a matter of miliseconds, and he's going to accomplish all of this while avoiding superman?
it's not invalid at all. it's the best example you're going to find of superman being drained.
I was just giving one example of how the Silver Surfer could win without Superman being able to lay a hand on him. His other abilities that could Superman has no clear ability to counter include but are not limited to:
interdenominational teleportation
telepathy
illusion casting
bio-energy manipulation
DNA manipulation
matter manipulation
surfboard intrapment
Honestly, I think its Superman's popularity that keeps him in fights like this more than anything else. If he was a C or D list hero instead of one of DC's Trinity nobody would give him a snowball's chance in hell against someone like SS.
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He capable both of nanosecond reactions and instant detection of beings along with their meta-abilities thanks to his cosmic awareness.
I think it's Superman's resume that makes people think he could take Surfer.
Superman is THE top dog in a universe filled with uber heroes and villains, and Superman is time and again the one called to save the day when all others fail.
Sure, Surfer has a shitload of fancy powers, but Superman's effectiveness out-trumps Surfer's versatility imo.
That kind of proves my point there. Similarly to Batman's mythical ability to "find a way to win," it appears that Superman's "effectiveness" (read: popularity) triumphs any real advantage his opponent has.
The only way Superman can win is with his fists, while the Surfer has nearly a dozen different ways to win thank to all his "fancy powers," yet none of that matters because Superman is more "effective".
Yep. You've convinced me.
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