WWK... Why didn't T&A one shot Surfer? Why hasn't Odin one shot Thor when they have met in battle? Why did Galactus run and flee from Thor? Why didn't a celestial one shot Thor? Yet you're saying DP Tyrant isn't shit because he didn't one shot heralds... guess what.. welcome to comics. All of the above examples are par for the course in comics and usually see the heroes not one shot put down. However, Tyrant did deal with them with ease... Surfer was put down for a few panels which is a one shot as it would constitute that on this forum... Brb was put down with ease... Surfer gets back up.. only to be one shot again... Glads was two shot with ease.. Gay.. was one shot.. Terrax and Morg were all dealt with easily. Yet, you're trying to say Tyrant isn't powerful for the same reasons others like Odin, Galactus and other Celestials also couldn't do. Shoot Tyrant put down BRB much easier than the Celestials put down Thor.
Furthermore, lets look at the Tyrant vs. Thanos and Odin vs Thanos fight since you brought up Thanos doing good against Tyrant... Did Thanos EVER fear for his life against Odin.. nope.. did he ever back down for flee vs Odin.. nope... Did he go looking for a fight with Odin and prep for his battle... nope.. Did he last many more panels with Odin as compared to Tyrant... YUP.. Thanos left because he ADMITTED Tyrant was going to kill him something he never feared from Odin. He also prepped and had an amped for Tyrant... he wasn't even looking for a fight with Odin and yet odin couldn't even put him down nor was he in any fear or thought about leaving... Compare that with him prepping and amped and LOOKING for a fight with Tyrant.. Tyrant deal with him much quicker and made Thanos leave for fear of dying... You wanna bring out comparison... That one shows Tyrant is Odin's superior.
Lastly, Galactus backed down from Tyrant the first time they met because Galaxies would be destroyed in the process of their fight... Seems like Tyrant was pretty darn powerful to make Galactus feed and prep for his battle with him.
SS and crew was being drained before they fought D Tyrant and Morg and Terrax weren't fighting tyrant he also called for his guards as well. Odin one-shotted Drax and Silver Surfer
DP Tyrant is around sky father level at best and Thanos being a little bit lower than him and Void Sentry who is a high trans at best is the weak link and would get butt raped by Tiamut. This is not a battle it's a slaughter, Celestial are up their with Galactus in tech so this would be a major beat down.
Except I put up a scan of Tyrant casually KOing Surfer before he was drained. So that "drained" excuse won't fly. Was Galactus "drained" when he backed down from claiming his herald, the same herald he went out of his way to recover? No right? So what's the problem?
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I blame Mike Lackey (the writer) and Bob Harras (the editor) who wrote and edited the Tyrant/Galactus final showdown. The entire issue was garbage, Ron Marz (the writer that introduced us to Tyrant AND the writer of the Cosmic Powers series) was building up to an epic, absolutely EPIC brawl between Big G and Tyrant, then that Lackey idiot drops the ball Oh well.
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Because he was in physical contact with it, I was stating Celestial tech are pretty much even Galactus! That besides the point,. Tiamut would just make this team his b***h.
T&A didn't one-shot Surfer because of PIS. The same why Odin doesn't one-shot Thor. T&A are Galactus level beings and beings beneath them like Odin have casually wrecked herald levelers consistently. The Celestial didn't one-shot Thor because PIS. Why is it not PIS for Tyrant when he fails to one-shot herald levelers? Consistency. Go look at every fight he's had against herald level beings and you see that he couldn't one-shot any of them even when they're weak! These are among his only showings, it's what establishes his power ranking. He then went on to have a struggle with Thanos; the same Thanos that begged for Galactus' mercy. Tyrant unleashed an attack to kill Thanos and it created a crater. That's it. As for Galactus, the whole thing was a baffle because Galactus already crushed Tyrant and depowered him. Why he was worried about a being he'd already beat a more powerful Tyrant in battle is baffling. When the majority of Tyrant's fights show him displaying nothing on Odin's level at all. The fact that Galactus didn't want to fight Tyrant doesn't trump Tyrant's actual display of power. He was able to take Galactus on by feeding on Galactus' attack. But outright power from him, he was lacking in putting down even Jack of Hearts.
Tyrant doesn't have the feats to put him in leagues with Galactus, Odin, and the Celestials. Odin no-sold most of Thanos' attack and have fought galaxy busters and wrecked them. Him not one-shoting Thor is PIS. He one-shot Ulik, Annihilus, Surfer, and Drax, all of whom are Thor's tier. Celestials have moved belts of planets as their weapon, created herald beings in minutes, and no sold attacks from skyfathers. Thor not being one-shot was PIS. Welcome to comic books!
If you want to argue Tyrant is skyfather level then that's plausible, but he sure isn't Galactus level with those piss-poor performance against Thanos and the heralds.
Sky fathers are not Galactus level, Celestials are Galactus Level and beyond. Skyfathers are nowhere near Celestials and Galactus. Skyfathers are not even above Cube Beings like Molecule Man, Beyonders, Kubik, or Shaper of Worlds.
Odin is stalemating Galactus in the battle of minds, that's it. Im feeling a wank fest is coming in Thor#4, they might d**k Galactus once again!
Well get ready for it, because on another forum, someone posted that the battle continues on a more physical level and STILL no clear winner. We'll soon see how right he was, Mighty Thor 5 goes on sale in 3 more days.
The fight concludes in Mighty Thor 6. So far it's not looking good for Galactus OR Surfer at all.
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Woah, that surely does prove that Tyrant must universal in power, only universal wreckers could 3 shot herald levelers and fail to put down Thanos. For all the threats, when they actually fought when find out Tyrant could feed on Galactus' power to increase his own. Nothing special. Tiamut steps on him.
Blame Mike Lackey's idiotic writing. Ron Marz, the guy that created Tyrant, wrote the issue where he first appeared and the entire Cosmic Powers series, clearly intended that "DP" Tyrant was a very real threat to Galactus (so much so that it was Galactus that backed down, not Tyrant when they met again).
Even that moron Lackey kept beating the reader over the head with how Galactus feared "DP" Tyrant (mentioned by Surfer because of the rapport he shared with Galactus) and Galactus made sure he was fully fed and prepped before he faced "DP" Tyrant. "DP" Tyrant's power was universal in scope because one of the sources of his power was the biosphere of every planet in the universe. This was stated by both Tyrant and Galactus.
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Yeah, a staving or near dying Galactus. Not a full powered Galactus that fed on a world that he said hasn't made him that strong in ages. Surfer felt that full powered and fed Galactus' fear through the rapport they shared. Even before the final showdown, Tyrant humiliated a non-starving/dying Galactus by keeping his herald.
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Hypocrisy much WWK… So heroes not getting one shot against Galactus, T&A, Odin & Celestials are PIS.. But when that "kinda" happens to Tyrant… those are indicative to his power levels.. :facepalm: It couldn't be that it happened for the same reason it happened in the examples I used.. ya know.. heroes doing better than they should against stronger more powerful foes.. That ISN'T a possibility WWK? I certainly hoping you're not taking that stand and saying it couldn't be PIS in the case of Tyrant as well. Furthermore, I say kinda because he DID one shot Surfer twice… He was out long enough to count as a forum win or did you intentionally skip over that part of my post? He was put down for the count in one shot.. the gets back up panels later. Just because you get back up later doesn't mean it wasn't a one shot. He did the same to Gay and BRB.. You're forgetting that they were all done with utter ease.. they were no threat to him or did you miss the clear presentation of the fight? Just because he didn't one shot them in the manner that others have.. doesn't mean they were anymore of a threat to Tyrant as people who were one shot the "way you like". Even though, they were pretty much all one shot.
Further, notice how you again skipped over the part of Thanos vs. Tyrant and Odin vs Thanos… A clear difference in power was shown there and felt by Thanos. If you go by how they looked against Thanos.. Tyrant clearly comes of as more powerful.. You can't get around these facts and differences…
1. Thanos was prepped, amped and looking for a fight against Tyrant… This is in stark contrast to his fight with Odin.. Thanos wasn't looking for a fight nor was he prepped or amped
2. Tyrant dealt with an amped and prepped Thanos much quicker than Odin was able to
3. Thanos never once feared for his life or back down from Odin.. Against Tyrant he backed down and admitted Tyrant was going to kill him if he stayed
This can't be stated enough.. He was seeking Odin's help… not looking for a fight.. stark contrast to prepping and looking for a fight… Yet Tyrant still did better. Lastly, you can say Tyrant only one because of his ability to manipulate Galactus blasts but that ignores the clear presentation fo the comic again. Original Tyrant fought Galactus for years and years before there was a winner. Galaxies were destroyed in the process of their fight. That is some serious collateral damage and pretty evenly matched foes. Which of course makes sense because Tyrant was made in Galactus image… He was made to be Galactus equal.. so duh.. of course it would be a damn good battle. Now fast forward to DP Tyrant… He had been hiding for eons GETTING HIS POWER BACK.. That was specifically stated on panel. What was also stated.. was that he had gathered up enough power and was no ready to challenge Galactus again.. In fact, the specific terminology used was.. I'm at the HEIGHT OF MY POWERS and can now come out of hiding. Hmmmm seems like you can clearly take that to mean he was AT LEAST as strong as he once was, and could even say even stronger than he was. Hmmmmm…. interesting…. Well then this explains Galactus actions doesn't it.. he can sense power levels with his PC and certainly his own creation. It's only logical to think he would know how powerful Tyrant had become and thus explain HIS ACTIONS… BACKING DOWN from Tyrant the first time they met for fear of the destruction of the universe.. Seems pretty clear he was in fear of Tyrant power NOT his ability to absorb his blasts… He then prepped and feed before battle.. hmmm why.. if he was clearly superior to Tyrant.. why do so? Hmmm maybe because Tyrant had regained his power just like the comic stated and was again a legit threat to Galactus… Ooo yeah.. surfer confirms this very thing as he's felt both of their powers… I must hurry up and get there before THEY BOTH DESTROY EACHOTHER.. Hmmmm more proof of Tyrant power level. You can't ignore the plain presentation and narration of a comic just so you can keep your hierarchy in take the way you see it. IMO Galactus and DP Tyrant are above Odin in power
His fights with the herald and Thanos made up 2/3 of his feats. How can claim it's PIS for Tyrant when there isn't much to draw upon in the first place? These fights define his power ranking. He was doing nothing above a skyfather. Up against Odin, his feats are below Odin's.
Oh please, what prep? Other than knowing about Tyrant's past, what prep did Thanos actually have? You act as if Thanos went into Asgard and new nothing of Odin. The orb argument has been argued to death. In your opinion it powered up Thanos, while I disagree. There isn't a general agreement on this forum that favors either side. You can't quantify how powerful Thanos was if there was an actual amp. Tyrant got his head knocked around while Odin no-sold all of Thanos' attacks. Even with the force block, which can be argued as prep, Odin still broke free where a WM Thor, that beat down the Infinity Watch and stalemated Thanos, couldn't. Thanos never backed down from Tyrant. Tyrant put a hole in that ground thinking he won only for Thanos stand back and took Tyrant's orb, despite Tyrant's threat.
LMAO. The same Tyrant that was having trouble one-shoting numerous heralds is going to kill Thanos. Odin couldn't put Thanos down but Tyrant can? And death, Thanos isn't afraid of death. Tyrant did nothing that a skyfather couldn't do. He beat Galactus because he was able to fed on Galactus' power. That's why Thanos perform better against Tyrant than Galactus did. At no point did Tyrant absorb Thanos' attack but instead got knocked about.
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Aug 22nd, 2011 05:55 PM
Oh well.
That was a good one
