I provided an example in which a member of The Ones was dubbed as a Force-user. Whether the term Force-wielder is coined or not for The Ones is irrelevant, I provided another example in which a normal Force-user have been dubbed as Force-wielder.
Caedus wrecks simply. Even if Luke's versions are all incredibly whacked out in terms of feats and general inconsistencies, Caedus's feats from Jacen to Caedus simply overwhelm HOT. Nothing HoT has tops Caedus fighting Luke basically dismembered, and nothing in HoT's saber feats indicates he'd even have a chance in a saber match.
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He's clearly struggling and grunting when he's lifted. Just because he was too injured to move doesn't mean he wasn't fighting back with the Force.
Also he's calm and serene because he's literally emotionless.
He collapses but he's still alive. The Jedi Knight specifically says that she means to take him to Coruscant and have him stand trial. Scourge confirms that he's still alive a few seconds later: "I felt nothing. You haven't killed him! Strike! Do it now!"
Hell, even in the Dark Side ending Scourge still says he's alive: "I can sense him fading, but he is not gone." Vitiate is secretly a complete badass.
It makes the most sense given the scene.
The only other explanation is that the Hero was struggling with something they've already done on Balmorra with ease. Something Orgus Din performed to a much greater extent at the start of the game.
Or that the Hero was purposefully dragging it out in sadistic fashion.
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And, if he was, he certainly wasn't at his best. Nor does it seem he is offering up any defense, he has already been defeated and knows this and seems content to die. Him grunting certainly doesn't change this.
Perhaps.
Uh, no it doesn't. Vitate is just lying there, nothing suggest HoT is using the force to pin him down. Nothing.
It seems to just be PIS or yeah, perhaps, the HoT was dragging it out.
Yeah, he wasn't. But he was still able to collapse the temple. So the Hero being able to ragdoll him is still impressive enough of a feat to put her on Caedus' level in my book. He is struggling and sparking as well as grunting while he does so. And imo his grunts are indicative of strain, not pain. He doesn't make any pained noises before or after that point.
Other than his lightning going haywire as soon as she lifts him. He's sparking like mad the whole time. I don't mean that shes literally pinning him down, I meant that shes preventing him from fighting back with the Force or stopping the pillar.
Eh whatever. I think we've lost track of the point of this discussion.