Yes, all users here are pathetic morons, you are the one person who isn't blinded by things like logic, or facts. No, you're use of opinions that you don't back up with any actual facts far surpasses our own, cited and researched claims. Truly, you are a light in the dark....now leave.
Nebaris is much, much worse. Mainly because he's actually kinda smart, but also has way to much time on his hands, this coupled with the fact that he's an ass makes him a far worse troll
This guy now is a bad itch, you scratch and then it's gone and forgotten. Neb is like poison ivy, you can't help but want to scratch it because it's just so obnoxious and incontinent, but when you do you only make things worse.
And last but not least: to say that comparing Malak to Sidious I am showing myself to be total fanboy is stupid, because the Star Forge was one of the most devastating tools of the dark side, which was stated by Ajunta Pall. And why on earth Sidious power exceeded to such limit after his death? Only because the author of that books had to use lots of beautiful descriptions to gain his salary.. And this stuff that includes Sdious Reborn is more non canon than Kotor…
I guessed you miss this and I have added a little more to it
He caused Count Dooku a highly powerful sith lord and the greatest Makashi duelist ever to live to fleed from him and Yoda had thoughts against killing him on Vjun where the darkside of the planet further empowered Dooku similar in way to what the star forge did to malak.
"Slowly, slowly, Dooku gave way: and in the dark drunken air, Yoda was terrible to behold." this was stated in Rendevous
"Yoda's skill with a lightsaber was still second to none on the council." from Darth Maul shadow Hunter which is before TPM and the experience he gains in the clone wars
Yoda was also one of the greatest if not the greatest Ataru duelist ever while we know next to nothing about Revan's saber skill.
and he was also able to reflect Sidious's lightning without his lightsaber being active.
Dooku told Grievous to avoid fighting Yoda in LOE
Called the" most devastatingly powerful foe the darkness had ever known"
In shatterpoint Windu says he is "not Yoda's equal in peace or war"
Oh and also you must admit that Revan what we compare with Luke was only in his twenties, so we haven’t seen him in his prime yet, I guess.
And this “most devastatingly powerful foe the darkness had ever known” is also just a Characters quote, I presume? So what could Dooku know about the ancient Sith?
P.S. Guys you are Luke/Yoda fanboys at the same equivalent as I am Revans one lol.
Last edited by MaxWham on Jan 19th, 2008 at 04:35 AM
It was made by the omniscient narrator -- not a character -- in the RotS novelization. As you've been told. Multiple times. Selective vision must be a by-product of fanboyism...
Come back when you've got something better to work with, squirt.
And by the way THANKS for all your reply and great patience!!! Tomorrow I will try to think over this all again and post my final arguments.
P.S. He was called that only within the limits of that novelization.
Meanwhile we cant see any of his great skills...
And I will surely come back, clyster ;0 .
By the way I am 27. Older than you, right??
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Not EXACTLY his idea, he was already in a sense following the "rule of two" as in one master one apprentice, hell there were a few couples before him, sadow and nadd, nadd and kun, kun and ulic.
I think he is could be worse than nebaris if he stays here for long. I'll be honest, i don't believe nebaris to be stupid but i think he is pretty intelligent ,its just that he enjoys annoying other people including me which is one of the things i dislike about him.
This revan fanboy deserves to be in lucasforums.com, not KMC.
Are you that idiot jedimasterJambi from lucasforums? Somehow he and you love to attempt to downplay DE trying to claim it isn't canon when it IS. Sorry friend but you are NOT a lucasarts employee, you don't establish nor do you decide whats canon and not.
Last edited by BoratBorat on Jan 19th, 2008 at 05:12 AM
He knew he had to kill the ones that he couldn't turn and one way he did this was by putting some of the unloyal ones in the front lines of the battle of malachor
Do you read what is posted?
Actually i have said in the past Revan is one of my favorites inf not my favorite. Darth Sexy likes then ancient sith mainly Marka Ragnos,he also likes Revan I believe,Sylar's favorite is Vader.
Last edited by Elite Hunter on Jan 19th, 2008 at 12:50 PM
MaxWham you are unfortunately a Revan fanboy I have seen you use the same argument here as you did on another forum and there the people reached the same conclusion as us. My advice and I suggest you take serious consideration to it is to stay away from the majority of vs threads involving Revan.
Hello again. First of all I’ve seen numerous forums where ppl laughed at the fact that some can put Sidious or Yoda on the level of Revan, so this is not an argument, ok.
So, I will begin with all this canon as you say. First how Anakin and Skywalkers can be chosen ones if it is known that they were just a product of Plagues/Sidious experiments? Second how DE can be canon if Emperor stayed alive and balance wasn’t brought by the chosen one? And please don’t tell me that Luke was one, cos Anakin is a chosen one according to Lucas. If you are talking about quotes from the books and that they somehow not only praise their characters but indicate that Yoda and Luke= the most Jedi ever, then I can tell you that Revan is somewhere beyond being just a sith or jedi, cos all the facts about him make Revan the winning candidate for Sith’ari, and please don’t show that you are complete idiots by arguing here.
1: He was free of all restrictions using the dark power, without being its slave, like Vader or Sidious (and yes they were toys in the hands of the dark side, craving for power and destruction, while Revan still had a glorious purpose), and according to Kreia wasn’t restricted by “Sides” at all, being capable of using both(and on much bigger scale then Kyle Katarn or Mace Windu).
2. He destroyed the sith with Malak in command and then Bane found his holocron which lead to creation of the Rule of Two, using which Vader and Sidious destroyed Jedi and ruled the galaxy.
Now about Sidious and how great he was. Yes he corrupted the senate and had a great political power, after 30 years of activity, still he achieved his final goals only due to those clones that were programmed to establish Order 66. While Revan, when he was about 16-17 y.o. (in his Revanchist period) was able to corrupt about half of all jedi order(the most bright and young ones), and how many jedi Sidious corrupted, let me guess 3 right???. And he didn’t destroy Mandalorians only because of Mass Shadow Generator, he himself killed Mandalor on his flagship, so don’t be stupid. And Canderous is a great evidence of Revans genius on the field of the battle, cos he saw the whole war. And was Sidious or Luke great military tacticians?? Hell no!!! Relying on Thrawn and other admirals. Also about so called manipulating abilities: Revan was able to use a Force technique to rip Rakatan language from their minds, driving Basic into their skulls in turn. I think that Palpy could only dream of such ability. Oh and finally I’ve made myself to read this crappy piece of visual literature called “Dark Empire”, so I am not impressed, the whole story is quite stupidly made, cos Luke demonstrated only his weakness, and Emperor, being an old fart, but then somehow after transforming himself into cloned body he became a superman! But we all know that force abilities don’t depend on your age, and what with midi-chlorians ?? How could he transform them in his clones?? So this DE is bull… full of absurdness. Also there is nothing amazing in Force Storms cos to me they seemed more like a super weapon rather than force ability, but nevertheless I think that controlling an enormous space station like Star Forge, or ships like Ravager (Nihilus) or sucking out the whole planet’s population (Exar Kun or Nihilus again)or holding pieces of one’s body together only by your will (Sion) is more impressive, than some puke in the skies that you can’t even control. And believe me according to Kotor 2 Nihilus would humiliate Sidious Luke and Yoda at a time.
But again is this soooo hard to admit that in each period of Star Wars there were enormously powerful personalities that shaped the galaxy according to their will?! They were like manifestations of the force, its avatars. And in new republic it was Anakin/Luke, and in old one it was Revan… admit it already. Also Revan and Anakin share lots of same characteristics, also being a complete antipodes in their tempers.
Now I’d like to answer to this ignorant moron (sorry, but you really are), that continue to say that Jedi in the movies are much stronger that those in Kotor. In Kotor jedi order was a real power, with the fate of the Galaxy on its shoulders, who were honored with deep respect, and were fighting with evil mostly every day. And those jedies in the movies were weakened by non-conflict existence, most of their time they were doing nothing but sitting in their tower and talking about fate of the galaxy, they were despised feared and misunderstood by people. In Kotor era Jedi were on their prime and in the movies on the verge of their extinction. And saying that they had more knowledge is also indication of your movie era fanboism, cos after First Jedi Purge almost all Jedi were destroyed and tons of knowledge were lost. And those movie era Jedi were only a shadow of their former prime, scavenging the pieces of knowledge they used to have…. And this is not my personal opinion, it was told numerous times in Kotor advertisements…
And about Anakin as a great badass “Chosen One”. Why he was sooo pathetic then? Having an enormous potential in the force he could only demonstrate force push and uncanny grip abilities? Oh and admit that he was a very narrow-minded and vain person, and a real f…ng bastard, after killing all those pure children under the disguise of a “kind jedi knight”.
Canon is greater than fanboys who don't understand it or have no knowledge of the books. Luke was created by the force he did bring balance though it obviously did not last. If DE wasn't cannon a representative of Lucas would have stated so. And no Bane is better candidate for sithari.(Nebaris would tool you on this) Revan unknowingly destroyed made the sith stronger. And he did this as jedi aka the sith's mortal enemy so try again.
Proof that Sidious was it slave he had much more knowledge than Revan ever had. And Revan is a Lightside male and went off on his after kotor. Kreia's word is falliable and based on her personal beliefs and it has been years since she has seen him. And Mace's vapaad and shatter point beats Revan in saber combat. Kyle Katarn was the 2nd best of Luke's order and rivaled him in saber combat which means he is on the same level or higher than ROTS Yoda who according to canon which you refuse to believe thanks to your fanoybism is more powerful than any lightsider to have come up till that point.
He didn't technically destroy the since there were more around spread across the galaxy first of all. And Bane already had ideas of rebellion and this does not equate to personal power at all. So what is your point?
Trying to conquer the galaxy by military has failed time again for the sith including revan. Bane recognized this and addressed in RoT. Sidious did accomplish all his goals on a grander scale revan didn't.
You said it yourself that force storms sound like a super weapn. And guess what it is a super weapon created by the force on a grander scale than anything Revan did. And believe me canon quotes prove it. Sidious is greater than Nihilus who can't hold a candle to Sidious or Revan for that matter in saber combat. So you fail again besides for the fact that Luke has a technique that makes Nihiulus powerful drain useless on him.
We never said that. Hell I even made a list of powerful force users who are rivals in power to people like Jacen,Luke,DE Sids.,Yoda,Mace and Kyle Katarn.
But canon says that Luke is the most powerful being ever. That De Sidious is the strongest sith. And by ROTS Yoda is the most devastatingly powerful foe the darkness HAD EVER KNOWN
So what if they shared qualities,ROTS Anakin in "teh zone" beats him in a straight up lightsaber duel. (Loses in force duel) They maybe related in the roles in the galaxy but Luke>Revan
Ok name a memeber of the jedi council who could beat Yoda from the kotor era. And yet canon says the tops of the PT ERA and NJO>Kotor Era overall. And you are clearly a revan fanboy whether you admit it or not Captain Sparrow on Lucasforums tooled you so far.
Anakin "the chosen one" Skywalker in "TeH Zone From ROTS Novelization
This is just a little bit there are others here who know more than I do about Anakin
Can you say pwned
Last edited by Elite Hunter on Jan 20th, 2008 at 12:51 AM
Jan 19th, 2008 04:15 AM
? So what could Dooku know about the ancient Sith?
