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I'm not saying Yoda really did disarm him. No one knows what the hell happened during that. GL has yet to clarify what actually happened.
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He didnt have plenty of time because Yoda picked up his sorry ass and left. Yes Sids tried to run first and that COULD mean that he thought Yoda was better but it didnt change the fact that Yoda ran. If Yoda fell from his own blast then he shouldnt have fired the blast! Thats just foolishness on Yodas part and reinforces the fact that Sids is the smarter duelist. And the only thing I 'GET' is that at the end of the duel it was Yoda running - not Sids.
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"YODA jumps to a lower Senate Pod. PALPATINE reaches out with one hand, and a Senate pod is released from its mooring and heads toward the Podium. PALPATINE uses the Force to hurl pod after pod at YODA, who ducks and jumps from one flying pod to another.
YODA leaps away from the pods. He uses the Force to hold one pod suspended in the air. The pod spins and YODA throws it back at PALPATINE, who leaps away at the last moment. "
Yoda only needed one Pod to throw at Sidious to make him barely jump out of the way when Yoda was throwing it from the down point.
Sidious had lobbed several at Yoda and missed each times from the upper point of gravity.
Some pwnage there.
"YODA unleashes a ferocious assault on PALPATINE, causing him to almost go over the edge. The Dark Lord drops his lightsaber but recovers with a BLAST OF ENERGY from his hands that surrounds YODA. YODA is deflecting the Sith Lord's lightning bolts. "
Boom! There's Sidious dropping his Lightsaber.
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Sidious is overconfident with opponents.
He SENSED Yodas power and tried to flee. He was unable to.
This is after he was vigorously thrown into a chair, of course.
Yoda fell two hundred feet from his own Force Push.
How is Sidious a smarter duelist? Yoda fired the more powerful force blast in the end after deflecting Sidious' Lightning attempt. Sidious weighed more so he didn't fly back as far. It's that simple.
They stalemated. Get used to that FACT!
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ROTJ said it best: Sidious is an extremely overconfident man and not used to situations where he doesn't hold all the cards. Granted, he can perform pretty well there, but his arrogance is a hindrance to him
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I think arrogance is a hindrance to almost all of the characters lol
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The first part of your argument means little. But Sids is still the smarter duelist. Yoda should have known that his force push would have done more damage to himself than to Sids and it was foolish on his part. From whatever angle you look at it, because Yoda did such a stupid move on Sids he fell two hundred feet. It was Yodas on fault he fell. It highlights his stupidity. And it was a stalemate because Yoda ran. YOU get used to it.
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wow, this is going back and forth, back and forth...until a setting is established, I don't think we're really getting anywhere.
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Sids did try to run and Yoda did stop him. This means nothing. Yoda was still the one to flee at the end.
You are giving me mistakes Sidious has made throughout the whole saga. They mean shit. Accept that Sids was the smarter duellist in that fight and that Yodas foolishness cost him the match.
And Sids didnt fly 200 feet. Why? Because he was in a better position. He got that position by outsmarting Yoda for it. Yes size has alot to do with it but that is a factor Yoda had to deal with. It didnt make the fight any more or less even. Because Sids was bigger Yoda should have changed his tactics or not fired the blast. He was just not smart enough to.
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Yeah! Because Yoda was able to after FALLING TWO HUNDRED FEET TO A COLD STEEL FLOOR FROM HIS OWN STAGGERING POWER!
Sidious wasn't the smarter duelist! When they dueled, they were on par.
No, they were in the exact same position when Yoda administered the blast. Sidious weighs more. He's obviously not going to fly back as far as Yoda did.
Yoda is far smaller.
And Sidious is ten times stupider than Yoda, If you've watched the final movie.
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The final movie has nothing to do with this conversation. Sidious weighs more than Yoda. You are exactly right. Then why did Yoda fire such a massive blast at him? Because hes stupid. He didnt incorporate a simple thing like Sids size into his strategy.
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I'm sure Sidious was incorporating size when Yoda simply brushed his lightning off and replied with a large blast of energy that knocked him off as well.
The final movie has lots to do with this. You're calling Yoda stupid because of what happened and I could call Sidious stupid for a similar predicament.
He didn't fire a blast. Yoda's power exploded in his hands. He was sitting there charging while giving Sidious this grim look. Did you see Sidious' face? He looked like he was shitting himself. Sidious was damn scared of what was to come and luckily, Sidious weighed more.
Yeah, Yoda is stupid because he was born weighing less than Sidious.
You're a moron.
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There is no need to insult me. We are talking about the duel in ROTS and I am stating faults that Yoda made in ROTS. Then you randomly say something about Sids in ROTJ. Completely irrelevant and doesnt help the argument at all.
Sidious is an ugly bastard all the time, his face is also irrelevant. What im saying is that Yoda is smaller than Sids and because of this Yodas strategy should incorporate their size. Firing off a massive blast would clearly do more damage to you than your opponent.
No, I still dont see how a mistake made by Sids in the OT can effect the outcome of the duel in ROTS. I agree that it was a stalemate but had they kept going Sids would have won because he is the smarter duellist. NOW the argument is over.
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