Living on Malachor V, after the MSG was used to hold the planet back together, may have been what caused those Sith to gain a very weak version of that power.
They lived among ruins and echoes of death afterward.
And within that place of death in the Force - the same place that cut Surik off, and spawned the black-hole maelstrom of Dark side energy that was Nihilus - experiencing the after-effects in that very same place, would have given the Sith Assassin's that weak version of that ability.
Like how Jessiah is trying to act like he's interested in the on-topic and not all the homosex post.
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"The Daemon lied with every breath. It could not help itself but to deceive and dismay, to riddle and ruin. The more we conversed, the closer I drew to one singularly ineluctable fact: I would gain no wisdom here."
This quote dismisses Nihilus' ability to consume planets as a rumor:
"Darth Nihilus was known as the Lord of Hunger and was known for his ability to literally consume the Force energy of his victims, which was known to sustain his own life energies. It was rumored that he could consume the Force energy of an entire planet." - Complete Encyclopedia, Nihilus, Darth
The same source makes it apparent that Nihilus used some sort of superweapon to obliterate planets or simply used old fashioned orbit bombardment:
"In the meantime, Nihilus led his Sith forces from his flagship, Ravager, drawing more and more power from worlds that he blasted into ruin".
For one thing Force drain cannot be used to "blast" things "into ruin", it is not a destructive power, it just sucks Force out of living beings leaving non-living objects completely in tact. Even in comics we see buildings being destroyed and surface ravaged. Either it was some weapon or a ritual-based Force power similar to Force Storm but not Force drain.
Nowhere it is canonically evidenced. The only time we ever see Nihilus using Force drain is on Meetra and the very same time he fails. And absolutely nowhere it says that she is immune because she is Force wound. Most people made logical conclusion that she resisted because she is wound, however, there is no proof that it was the case.
Moreover, within the same game there is proof that Exile is not immune to drain. Kreia uses her supposed to be "lesser" Force drain on her on Dantooine in one of the story branches and it works fine.
This quote cannot be used as proof that it cannot be taught.
Plagueis said pretty much the same thing about lightning:
"In order to summon and use lightning properly, you will someday have to be on the receiving end of its power, as a means of taking the energy inside yourself."
Numerous evidence shows that Plagueis' statement is wrong and that's why these kind of claims about techniques cannot be relied on.
Moreover, we have Krayt, who discovered Nihilus' holocron and learned this ability.
You can't know it. Do you even realize that Force wound is just a phylosophical interpretation given by in-universe characters? No outside source whatsoever states Exile or Nihilus to be Force wound.
Vitiate experienced far larger Force disturbance, which resulted from his ritual. So, if Force wound thing is real, Vitiate supposed to be one of the most potent ones.
I've discovered Ahrael to have some..special..tendencies, that would normally lead me to consider him as, "slow", in most circles.
But he's too damn likable. He's like Forrest Gump that way.
He may be a Mongoloid - but he's got a heart of gold.
__________________ Originally posted by Arhael Okay, look. Um, me feels no agenda to meeting and vacuum in leadership position, so me has composed 12 point plan for good happy success.
I looked into it; it would seem that from the wording, Nihilus's ships would follow Nihilus, as he stood aboard the Ravager, feeding off of worlds.
Early on in another debate, we examined the ruins of Katarr, as a possibility that Nihilus's technique may have had other destructive effects.
Then, I believe, Lord_Lucien, offered the suggestion that with every world that Nihilus drained to death, almost instantaneously, that world's machines and vehicles would break down and crash without their living operators - resulting in added destruction and ruin.
So it was all Nihilus, and his fleet was just along for the ride (No pun intended)
(Remember, he uses the Force to drag them around )
At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter anyway.
Nihilus's attack is unblockable and his durability is Planet-Level.
The only way Vitiate would have a chance, is if he attacked Nihilus with a fleet of ships, at an extreme distance.
Otherwise, he's easily dead, here. There's nothing he can do.
__________________ Originally posted by Arhael Okay, look. Um, me feels no agenda to meeting and vacuum in leadership position, so me has composed 12 point plan for good happy success.
Remember that when Nihilus fed on the black hole that was Meetra Surik - all of his massively cosmic-level Force reserves were exhausted onto her.
Beforehand, the Nihilus that held the collective Force energy of entire worlds, was said by Visas to be on a scale so great that he viewed things in terms of planets and stars and that he was too monstrously powerful to be fought in combat.
And indeed, if you attempt to fight him before having the Exile drain him; he slaughters your team easily.
Afterward though, when Nihilus had been drained - was only with a minute fraction of his original power - and was only the sum of a suit of armor and robes.
Then, he could be destroyed conventionally.
Other than that, he holds within him enough Force power to survive a planet being ripped into pieces.
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