Lmao. The guy's also said that Old Ben's far more powerful than Vader, so what's saying he's right this time? He's contradicted himself on this issue before, so he's not reliable in this case I'm afraid.
Everyone here says that Lucas' word extends to the EU, Canon and all other material. So does his statement of "You have to be either Mace or Yoda to compete with the Emperor" still stand despite Luke defeating him, Plagueis would also logically be able to compete, then we see Maul do it briefly in TCW etc. If Lucas' word was actually treated as fact, we wouldn't see characters before and after his statement compete with Sidious. The Maul = Dooku = Vader garbage is exactly the same.
We know that Dooku is way ahead of Maul, by virtue of being vastly superior to General Grievous, Kenobi's stated equal (who is Maul's solid superior). Not only do we have a line of scaling, but Dooku is said to have easily defeated Kenobi on the Invisible Hand - despite having the near-invincible Anakin Skywalker as backup - once again proving he's far better than Maul; "After a short struggle, Dooku easily swatted Obi-Wan Kenobi aside, leaving him to duel with a frightened Anakin alone while the captive Chancellor Palpatine looked on." - From one of the Relaunched Fact Files. I can find the issue number if needed.
If Lucas says something, and then we see that's demonstrably not the case... are we not supposed to believe our eyes? Or do we blindly follow what we know to not be true? His word is canon unless we see the converse, and that's what's going on here. Maul and Vader are Ventress-tier trash, and Dooku reigns supreme
Last edited by RealistRacism on Dec 19th, 2018 at 07:11 AM
Dooku being >> Kenobi isn’t a thing. In every portrayal of the fight Kenobi is caught off guard. Dooku might be > Kenobi but it’s not enough to warrant >> :/
Kenobi has Grievous beaten in every regard bar offensive. The only source placing Kenobi and Grievous as equals is a TCW source, and we don’t touch TCW sources :C
Dooku is > Grievous because Grievous can’t comprehend Dooku-level Makashi, and Dooku knows how Grievous fights and operates. In terms of sheer effectiveness Grievous and Dooku are not too far apart tbh.
Maul sucks though so well done on being right about one thing
Lmfao what a shit argument, no wonder you never debate seriously.
Dooku >> Kenobi is a thing, as the quote I posted points to. I'm sorry but that excuse just doesn't cut it anymore. Kenobi can't be caught off guard when he's looking right at Dooku, and running towards him. Unless the argument here is that Obi-Wan is the stupidest combatant in history? In either case, they both lead to him being << Dooku.
Kenobi hasn't always beaten Grievous at all, and TCW is still legitimate. It's in the Fact Files which addresses not only The Clone Wars program anyway.
Grievous not being far off Dooku is completely unfounded. You're just dumb
I don't think Ventress has any relevant Edge against Vader. Sabers would be the closest but Anakin did square off with Dooku who was vastly superior so his experience would give him a solid advantage.
The relaunched fact files are Disney canon. And no matter how hard you try to ignore it or twist around it or try to sideline it, it is canonical that Kenobi did not have his active barrier up when Dooku choked him.
And no it's not retarded at all. In fact it has been made clear repeatedly across sources that he left himself open trying to bullrush him there On that note I should probably compile a list of all sources where someone who did not gesture to defend was choked, ragdolled or sent flying. Pretty sure all PT era material is consistent in at least this note, regardless who the opponents are or whether it is legends or canon
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