I don't need quotes from the guide, lol. Vrook has placed the Exile in Stasis, and in the DS version of the game, he also pushes the Exile and her party down with TK before Stunning them all. He's also more powerful than Kavar, who has a slew of nice TK/Force Stun feats. And he's mastered the various Force Forms except Channel, which is an advantage.
Then there's Vrook, Kavar and Zez-Kai Ell being collectively powerful enough to cut the Exile off from the Force, and the trio also telekinetically rebuilt the destroyed Jedi Enclave. It's all on my RT.
Qui-Gon's mastery of the Force is not perfect, and we're talking about combat-relevant powers. Telekinesis is probably the only power he can bring to a showdown between him and Vrook.
Last edited by SunRazer on Sep 19th, 2015 at 02:13 AM
His hand is the only one that comes up. So he wasn't aided by the Masters for the Stasis, only the Sever Force. If you disagree, could you show me footage where all the Masters raise their hands in unison to place the Exile in Stasis?
If you can show me why they'd be a power disparity between Vrook's LS and DS storyline incarnations, then I'll agree to the feats not being usable. Otherwise, it's the same Vrook, just under different circumstances and in different incidents.
1. That has nothing to do with power, lol. As I said, it never happens, but it could happen in an alternate reality. That's basically how canon in most fictions work.
2. On a dark side nexus and with the Scepter of Ragnos, you mean?
3. That was outright retconned, and it's not a DS ending/counterpart to a game. That's a terrible example that's completely irrelevant to my point.
Nobody's reaching, lol.
You don't need DS to select the option that you don't want to be cut off from the Force (there are multiple non-DS options, and some of them involve you trying to resist). Whether you attempt to resist or not, you're put in Stasis.
Vrook TK'd the Exile's party down and he's telekinetically rebuilt the Jedi Enclave with the other Masters (which you didn't address, so concession accepted).
Last edited by SunRazer on Sep 19th, 2015 at 02:22 AM
1. The facts are the feats, which I've given you. The thing is, you keep trying to worm your way out of the facts with excuses, and it's getting frustrating.
2. Your indelible stance on certain characters means it'll be virtually impossible to persuade you that they'd lose a fight to another being of their class that you have less preference for, so I believe I'm wasting my time here.
3. I have Qui-Gon's main feats in my RT, lol. Also, I didn't give you rights to my RT itself, I just gave you permission to use my content and make your own.
4. You lacked an argument on Force Forms, so that's a concession, and it's accepted.