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A nexus that would amp Nox, Marr and Lana Beniko too, if you want to put it that way. Not including Satele's Battle Meditation.
Plus you're ignoring that he had just fought the first protag led strike team, whilst he'd been expending power trying to activate the Temple of Sacrifice.
Oh and the actual dialogue during the battle has Marr, Lana and Satele strongly indicating they were losing the fight. It was a very hard fought victory.
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She raped them by catching them off-guard with a sudden burst of energy that was clearly well above the norm they were expecting since she was enraged.
Did they all have energy shields? How powerful are they? Energy shields don't really stop you from snapping their neck or anything, but I suppose Revan never had a chance to do that, which only suggests that he was on the defensive.
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They were clearly not caught off-guard when Valkorion spends about ten seconds telling them all she is still a threat, and 'instinctive barriers' are a thing in SWTOR unless you've forgotten.
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Satele's Battle Meditation is reduced by the nexus. Marr and Beniko together are still below Tyranus, lmfao. The rest of this team here shit on the remaining members of the Coalition.
Words of encouragement don't mean that they were losing. If you were equally matched, or even holding the slight edge and wanting a more conclusive win, you'd say the same.
As for him having just fought a battle, sure, but even Tyranus can wash away immense fatigue in an instant.
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I wouldn't. I think the Coalition strike teams he fought could have beaten Novel Vitiate, seeing as how that version of Vitiate is 300 years weaker. Though I'll admit it's arguable which of the two feats is his best.
For one, there's no indication they were taken off-guard. While the animation didn't have them defending themselves, they were looking at Vaylin and Valkorion made clear she was still a threat. Secondly, they still have Lesser Force Shields - the Force barrier in question for almost most of the telekinetic feats against Force-users you praise. And perhaps most importantly, Vaylin's Force energy began to crack the walls of the Alliance Commander Center itself, and yet Theron Shan survived all of this without any notable injury. Note that Vaylin is using more power here than she did when she killed a dozen Zakuul Knights, Thus, it's apparent that you stating that, since the non-Force sensitives survived, Revan couldn't have also been hurting them offensively (which he did, since he ragdolled them all, remember?) is not only wrong, but disgusting.
Yes. Theron Shan has Shield Probes which he can use to shield friendly targets. He also has Portable Cover shields and Scrambling Fields. Allies can go within these energy bubbles to likewise be protected from Revan. Also, researching Theron Shan's abilities against Revan, I found he also called in XS Freighter Flyby's, which fired at Revan. The XS Freighter is armed with two laser cannons and missile batteries. That's another threat Revan has to deal with here.
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It's stated to be the only thing keeping them in the fight.
Dooku's more powerful than Marr? Arguably. Marr speedblitzed Lachris, stomped Thanaton's master and was stated to be second to none in the Empire. You can say Dooku has better feats but nowhere near to the extent you're claiming.
They're literally saying he's too powerful for them to defeat.
He just lost a very close battle against sixteen of the most powerful Jedi and Sith heroes in the galaxy, including somebody as powerful as Darth Nox. Calling that 'fatigue' is a laughable understatement. He was also busy empowering a weapon that would kill everything in a multi-kilometer radius.
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lol So if you're looking at someone, that means you're guard is up? Evidently not the case against Malgus, lol.
And yes, they knew she was a threat, but they weren't prepared for the unprecedented amount of power that she unleashed - instinctive Force defenses or not.
Where was Theron when the shockwave hit him?
He did, and they were completely unharmed despite Revan being amped and them not having any visible energy shields active.
Calypso and Lachris aren't anything noteworthy. Dooku stomping Ventress alone shits on those feats.
Which can also mean parity, lol.
Sorry, but a hindered novel Revan was able to heal himself from infinitely worse injuries very quickly. Suggesting an amped SoR Revan couldn't do so is laughable. And Tyranus was immensely fatigued, yet he washed that all away in a moment.
Yeah, so you didn't need to bring it up. You can still be caught off-guard with it up.
No it doesn't, lmfao, or else the guys against Malgus would've had it up as well.
So the energy shields protect them from TK waves. No idea how that changes anything else. Revan can still reach out and snap their necks, which he obviously never did. And that again, suggests that he was on the defensive.
Stop being dramatic. And no, they don't have energy shields around them in that GIF you posted for Revan TK'ing them.
Yours? Yes, it is.
Game mechanics aren't valid evidence. You can have your allies knocked out and then they're in the cutscene afterwards.
Such absolute and blind stupidity. This is so embarrassing on your part.
As per yourself, Vaylin unleashed an "unprecedented amount of power" that hurled Arcann and Senya, even despite them having up their Lesser Force Shields.
And yet Theron Shan survived this same exact blast. Thus, it's apparent that your argument that "hurr, I'm a retard and Theron wasn't even killed by Revan" is outright Vaderish.
Well, the retard part seems accurate, but the latter part is kek.
Yeah, they did. Darth Malgus is definitely above everyone on the strike team.
Next, why the hell can Revan snap their necks if there's an energy shield protecting his Force powers from their necks? You can't just snap someone's neck if they have a Force barrier.
I'm referring to when he ragdolled them. In the cutscene, refer to the fact Vaylin didn't kill Theron either.
Also, what an absolute and disgusting lie. There's no quote stating game mechanics are non-canon. Unless you bring forth a quote, you're wrong, a liar, and a pathetic one.
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So what if he survived? You said he had an energy shield that stops Force waves. Did he deactivate it after he had Vaylin on her knees?
Arcann and Senya were ragdolled because they were unprepared for the amount of power that that Vaylin was about to unleash. That doesn't mean the same amount of power has to disintegrate everyone, lol.
I'm referring to all of the non-Force sensitives, not just Theron in particular.
Energy shields aren't Force barriers, you overcooked chicken fillet.
Force waves are external attacks - snapping somebody's neck is internal. It can bypass energy shields since it isn't hitting them head-on from the outside.
And I'm referring to the cutscene. Are Theron's shields up in the Vaylin one?
lol "Absence of evidence is evidence of absence" doesn't work.
Game mechanics are pure bullshit, lol. You conveniently have healing stations that restore you to full health at every boss fight, lmfao. Malgus' Choke works on three of you if you bring four chars, yet if you bring three he can suddenly only choke two. You're absolutely retarded if you think all game mechanics are legitimate canon.
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