So even if we forget the picture, and assume that Yoda had no conflict whatsoever about killing his old padawan, you're claiming that we've only ever seen Yoda go all out against Sidious.
Hence why Dooku lasted as long as he did. Besides, there the mitigating factor of Dooku knowing Yoda's preferred form, Ataru, inside and out due to sparring Qui-Gon thousands of times, as well as Yoda himself.
Well yeah, we basically agree then. Yoda's a Sidious-level duelist when he's going all out, otherwise you get what you get with the Dooku fight - Yoda not trying his hardest. If you want to call that "going easy" "treating Dooku differently" or whatever, phrase it however you like.
I get your point Ant: you want to create a comparison between Yoda and Anakin vs Dooku, to bump KF Vader above Yoda. But it's an unfair comparison for Yoda for a number of reasons, one of which is the fact Yoda wasn't fighting at the same level as he was against Sidious, whereas, Anakin was trying harder than ever to kill Dooku. There's also the matter of styles altering the outcome of fights.
Because we've never seen anyone do that to anyone in Canon... ever?
Sidious would have ragdolled Maul later in the fight though. He didn't - he waited until after he disarmed him.
Truly, the word "Anakin" never crossed my mind this entire conversation except in the context of (edit) TCWS6. You're becoming far too paranoid.
I'll gladly debate with you Anakin and Yoda's respective performances vs Dooku, in which Anakin's is better and that can be reasonably concluded, but that's not really what we're discussing here, is it?
Last edited by DarthAnt66 on Oct 3rd, 2017 at 08:00 PM
There's two ways to mitigate the Yoda/Dooku conundrum Imo.
1) Yoda can't physiologically bring himself to bare his full might against the Count
2) Yoda, after decades of relative training dormancy, grew stronger during the Clone Wars, like the other centre stage Jedi at that time
Yoda is a tier 9, Dooku is a tier 8, and unlike Mace he isn't teetering on the edges. There is is supposedly an order of magnitude between their powers, or at the very least a decisive gap. Dooku would probably retreat against a fresh B-team, Sidious can blitz them.
“We defeated the wrong enemy” - General George S. Patton, Berlin 1945
Last edited by twotter on Oct 3rd, 2017 at 08:06 PM
Not really. Vs Sidious, his moves were far more precise, more deliberate, more conservative.
That doesn't necessarily mean trying harder - it means fighting differently to fight a different opponent.
Vs Dooku, he's far more liberal to do whatever he wants because the threat of Dooku harming him is less.
When Yoda crosses sabers with the movie's arch-villain, he doesn't launch into a pinwheeling display of acrobatics, as he did against Count Dooku in Episode II. Instead, Yoda faces the dark side's fury, channeled by the most powerful Sith Lord in history. "Rob Coleman wanted Yoda to feel the power of his enemy," says Wheless, "like a force he's never dealt with before."
Last edited by DarthAnt66 on Oct 3rd, 2017 at 08:05 PM