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What are you trying to tell me? That I can dodge bullets?
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What are you trying to tell me? That I can dodge bullets?

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There is a great misconception amongst many KMC members over who exactly can and cannot "dodge bullets"

Characters such as DareDevil, Wolverine, Batman, Captain America, etc, etc... all have managed to fool people into believing that they can "dodge" bullets... this is simply not possible, while yes, they do avoid being hit on a consistent basis, they are not actually dodging bullets, they are merely avoiding the aim of the person firing at them.

High velocity rifle fire can travel at over 3,000 mph (over mach 4) which is obviously way too fast for any non-speedster to avoid if it's on target when fired.

I've even heard people state that "Wolverine (or whoever) dodges lasers all the time" which is even more ludicrous... once again they are only avoiding the aim of the person/machine behind the weapon.

Spider-Man is another character people claim can "dodge" bullets and that he does it more often than any other character "proving" that he can... once again this is not the case... his spider-sense lets him know when he is about to be fired at and his superhuman speed allows him to easily move from that location before the shooter can even pull the trigger

I know this thread is fairly pointless... but I don't care... the growing number of fanboys on the comic forums who constantly state that "(insert name here) can dodge bullets/lasers" is mind-boggling

The characters who actually can "dodge" a bullet after it has been fired include Superman, the Flash, Quicksilver(classic), Speed Demon, etc... basically people who can move and react at the speeds necessary to avoid a projectile travelling anywhere between mach 0.5 to mach 4.5

http://hypertextbook.com/facts/1999/MariaPereyra.shtml
http://www.reloadbench.com/gloss/conv.html


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not disagreeing on anything other then this....wouldn't SMs spider-sense in essense actually allow him to dodge bullets? i mean, if it's coming at him, wouldn't he see it in enough time to "dodge"? instead of moving out of the way before it is shot?


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I like how in the first choice, if they pick it, they call themselves idiots. laughing


Anyway, people are still going to claim that Wolverine (impowered by the souls of millions of fanboys, basically making him a high level cosmic) can dodge bullets.

Plus, I also thought that Spiderman has dodged a bullet after it's been fired...


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Leave it to Scoobless to trounce all the hopes and dreams of the many fanboys and noobs on this forum.

Scoobless is beginning to endear himself to me. wink


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Originally posted by bigbran
Anyway, people are still going to claim that Wolverine (impowered by the souls of millions of fanboys, basically making him a high level cosmic) can dodge bullets.


I'm just trying to raise awareness/reason levels on KMC

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Plus, I also thought that Spiderman has dodged a bullet after it's been fired...


Spider-Man is slightly more difficult to slot into either group... he's at that point of superhuman speed/reactions where it's conceivable for him to do it on occasion.... He has caught a bullet before... but I would assume that it was a, relatively speaking, slow moving round


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Re: What are you trying to tell me? That I can dodge bullets?

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Originally posted by Scoobless
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There is a great misconception amongst many KMC members over who exactly can and cannot "dodge bullets"

Characters such as DareDevil, Wolverine, Batman, Captain America, etc, etc... all have managed to fool people into believing that they can "dodge" bullets... this is simply not possible, while yes, they do avoid being hit on a consistent basis, they are not actually dodging bullets, they are merely avoiding the aim of the person firing at them.

High velocity rifle fire can travel at over 3,000 mph (over mach 4) which is obviously way too fast for any non-speedster to avoid if it's on target when fired.

I've even heard people state that "Wolverine (or whoever) dodges lasers all the time" which is even more ludicrous... once again they are only avoiding the aim of the person/machine behind the weapon.

Spider-Man is another character people claim can "dodge" bullets and that he does it more often than any other character "proving" that he can... once again this is not the case... his spider-sense lets him know when he is about to be fired at and his superhuman speed allows him to easily move from that location before the shooter can even pull the trigger

I know this thread is fairly pointless... but I don't care... the growing number of fanboys on the comic forums who constantly state that "(insert name here) can dodge bullets/lasers" is mind-boggling

The characters who actually can "dodge" a bullet after it has been fired include Superman, the Flash, Quicksilver(classic), Speed Demon, etc... basically people who can move and react at the speeds necessary to avoid a projectile travelling anywhere between mach 0.5 to mach 4.5

http://hypertextbook.com/facts/1999/MariaPereyra.shtml
http://www.reloadbench.com/gloss/conv.html


No, Im telling you that in time you wont have to!

embarrasment I guess thats why they are called COMIC BOOKS. They dont have to make sense all the time. If all comics were based on actual facts, like say not being able to dodge bullets, the comic would be kinda boring.


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Well, Cap has said that he see's the bullet's in a slow motion type of sense. erm


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Well, Cap has said that he see's the bullet's in a slow motion type of sense. erm


slow motion ? ... they are still travelling at hundreds/thousands of miles per hour

If a bullet is fired on target at on of those guys... and they aren't already in motion... they should not be able to get out of the way in time


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punisher hit spiderman with mercy bullets... stick out tongue


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Originally posted by Scoobless
slow motion ? ... they are still travelling at hundreds/thousands of miles per hour

If a bullet is fired on target at on of those guys... and they aren't already in motion... they should not be able to get out of the way in time


I donno erm

He says he sees faster.


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slow motion ? ... they are still travelling at hundreds/thousands of miles per hour

If a bullet is fired on target at on of those guys... and they aren't already in motion... they should not be able to get out of the way in time

I guess it's the same thing that Peter saw in the Spider-man movie when Flash tried to hit him. messed


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According to Wolverine's fans, Wolverine can see bullets in slow motion.


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According to Wolverine's fans, Wolverine can see bullets in slow motion.


Which was one of the reasons I made this thread in the first place... I've read every Wolverine comic that has come out in the last ten years and I've never seen that ability crop up


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Which was one of the reasons I made this thread in the first place... I've read every Wolverine comic that has come out in the last ten years and I've never seen that ability crop up
I guess Wolverine came out of the comic, and told them personally, I dunno, I guess he has that ability.


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Shit!!
I know I seen somewhere say that Wolverine was able to catch nukes....
I forget what thread, but if I find it, I'll post it.


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Re: What are you trying to tell me? That I can dodge bullets?

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Originally posted by Scoobless
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There is a great misconception amongst many KMC members over who exactly can and cannot "dodge bullets"

Characters such as DareDevil, Wolverine, Batman, Captain America, etc, etc... all have managed to fool people into believing that they can "dodge" bullets... this is simply not possible, while yes, they do avoid being hit on a consistent basis, they are not actually dodging bullets, they are merely avoiding the aim of the person firing at them.

High velocity rifle fire can travel at over 3,000 mph (over mach 4) which is obviously way too fast for any non-speedster to avoid if it's on target when fired.

I've even heard people state that "Wolverine (or whoever) dodges lasers all the time" which is even more ludicrous... once again they are only avoiding the aim of the person/machine behind the weapon.

Spider-Man is another character people claim can "dodge" bullets and that he does it more often than any other character "proving" that he can... once again this is not the case... his spider-sense lets him know when he is about to be fired at and his superhuman speed allows him to easily move from that location before the shooter can even pull the trigger

I know this thread is fairly pointless... but I don't care... the growing number of fanboys on the comic forums who constantly state that "(insert name here) can dodge bullets/lasers" is mind-boggling

The characters who actually can "dodge" a bullet after it has been fired include Superman, the Flash, Quicksilver(classic), Speed Demon, etc... basically people who can move and react at the speeds necessary to avoid a projectile travelling anywhere between mach 0.5 to mach 4.5

http://hypertextbook.com/facts/1999/MariaPereyra.shtml
http://www.reloadbench.com/gloss/conv.html


While I agree completely with what you're saying, I just want to say that Spider-Man actually HAS dodged a bullet that was already on it's path towards him. I'm looking for the scan now. But he was standing still, the bullet was fired, and it was still in mid-air, about half-way to him, before he started to move. I'll keep looking for it.

But you're right on about everyone else. Kudos.


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There is a great misconception amongst many KMC members over who exactly can and cannot "dodge bullets"

Characters such as DareDevil, Wolverine, Batman, Captain America, etc, etc... all have managed to fool people into believing that they can "dodge" bullets... this is simply not possible, while yes, they do avoid being hit on a consistent basis, they are not actually dodging bullets, they are merely avoiding the aim of the person firing at them.

High velocity rifle fire can travel at over 3,000 mph (over mach 4) which is obviously way too fast for any non-speedster to avoid if it's on target when fired.

I've even heard people state that "Wolverine (or whoever) dodges lasers all the time" which is even more ludicrous... once again they are only avoiding the aim of the person/machine behind the weapon.

Spider-Man is another character people claim can "dodge" bullets and that he does it more often than any other character "proving" that he can... once again this is not the case... his spider-sense lets him know when he is about to be fired at and his superhuman speed allows him to easily move from that location before the shooter can even pull the trigger

I know this thread is fairly pointless... but I don't care... the growing number of fanboys on the comic forums who constantly state that "(insert name here) can dodge bullets/lasers" is mind-boggling

The characters who actually can "dodge" a bullet after it has been fired include Superman, the Flash, Quicksilver(classic), Speed Demon, etc... basically people who can move and react at the speeds necessary to avoid a projectile travelling anywhere between mach 0.5 to mach 4.5

http://hypertextbook.com/facts/1999/MariaPereyra.shtml
http://www.reloadbench.com/gloss/conv.html
I'm glad you brought this up. Technically Spiderman dodges them depending on the distance and situation, but he shouldn't just be dodging ridiculous amounts either. I made this point several times along with Never. yes


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It doesn't really matter if Wolverine can dodge bullets or not. I know fans argue he can to prove ha has super reaction speed or whatever but in the end it's pretty pointless.


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