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Donald Trump running for President

Surprised this topic has not been made yet:

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/16/polit...ment-elections/

Already at least two lies have been pointed out from his announcement speech. Apparently he said he was worth 8 billion, but is only worth 4. He also said the Islamic State has built a hotel in Syria, which is also a complete fabrication, no such hotel exists in Syria like that.

So it seems he shot himself in the foot already. He had to of known people would pick apart the "facts" he was using.


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This is German, but it's on point: http://www.der-postillon.com/2015/0...trump-will.html

Headline:

"Historical Chance: Donald Trump wants to be the first clown to move into the White House"


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Donald Trump owns several hotels, so it makes sense that he thinks everyone else owns at least one as well.


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He also talks about how he is good for the country due to being a good business man. Yet he has filed for bankruptcy on more than one occasion.


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This is German, but it's on point: http://www.der-postillon.com/2015/0...trump-will.html

Headline:

"Historical Chance: Donald Trump wants to be the first clown to move into the White House"



I'd take the "clown" Trump over the traitor sitting in the WH right now anyday. At least Trump actually cares about the country and wouldn't try turning it into a socialistic regime like Obama is and Hillary most certainly will try too.


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Yep, Trump cares so much he makes shit up in his announcement speech for no reason.


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I'd take the "clown" Trump over the traitor sitting in the WH right now anyday. At least Trump actually cares about the country and wouldn't try turning it into a socialistic regime like Obama is and Hillary most certainly will try too.


Why do you use the word socialist like it's a bad thing?


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It's just a PR stunt. I guess the rating on his TV show are slipping.


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Because the US political Right makes socialism out to be were the poor (who are inherently lazy, because that's what makes someone poor in the US) get to sit around and be lazy, while the 'good, honest and hardworking red-blooded Americans' have to give all their money to support their laziness.


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Because the US political Right makes socialism out to be were the poor (who are inherently lazy, because that's what makes someone poor in the US) get to sit around and be lazy, while the 'good, honest and hardworking red-blooded Americans' have to give all their money to support their laziness.


That's borderline retarded.


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Can't wait til the media starts releasing their plethora of stories on him they've been gathering for years waiting for him to do this. Bribery, corruption, bullying and harassment of citizens, going into business with people linked to organized crime. It's gonna be hilarious


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Already voted 3 times for him.


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He also talks about how he is good for the country due to being a good business man. Yet he has filed for bankruptcy on more than one occasion.



So you're not convinced he's a good business man?


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I'd take the "clown" Trump over the traitor sitting in the WH right now anyday. At least Trump actually cares about the country and wouldn't try turning it into a socialistic regime like Obama is and Hillary most certainly will try too.


You do realize that the next President's obligations will be to complete what President Obame began right? Donald Trump would make an absolutely horrible President.


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So you're not convinced he's a good business man?


I mean I would guess that he can't be that crappy since he is worth billions. On the other hand if he is going to run on the premise of business expertise then multiple filings for bankruptcy don't help.

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Can't wait til the media starts releasing their plethora of stories on him they've been gathering for years waiting for him to do this. Bribery, corruption, bullying and harassment of citizens, going into business with people linked to organized crime. It's gonna be hilarious


One would of thought if there were juicy stories they would of come out by now..or at least once his reality show got popular.


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Historical Chance: Donald Trump wants to be the first clown to move into the White House


First?


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One would of thought if there were juicy stories they would of come out by now..or at least once his reality show got popular.


That's not how the media operate. They'll sit on stories for years and publish to damage people at key times. Last time he flirted with running for president a few stories came out and he was quoted as saying "Nobody said it was going to be easy, but I had no idea I would get hammered in the way I've been hammered the past few weeks,"


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I'd take the "clown" Trump over the traitor sitting in the WH right now anyday. At least Trump actually cares about the country and wouldn't try turning it into a socialistic regime like Obama is and Hillary most certainly will try too.



That's not what a traitor is, and we're not socialistic. Not even close.


Did you know that something like Obamacare has been in place in one US state for 30 years? It's true.


Someone passing laws you don't like =/= traitor.

Obama was elected by popular vote and the laws of the nation, and he was elected in large part on passing healthcare and similar policies that he did.


Like it or not, that's what the American people wanted, and if you call doing what the populace wanted the president to do being a 'traitor,' you have messed up standards, and not a lot of respect for the 'for the people, by the people' standard.



Now on to Trump:

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[B]I mean I would guess that he can't be that crappy since he is worth billions. On the other hand if he is going to run on the premise of business expertise then multiple filings for bankruptcy don't help.



You'd think so, wouldn't you? But seriously, he's a joke. He's gone backrupt multiple times, like you say. And the way he's done that is he's suckered people into helping him get back on his feat each time, but in short, he's actually pretty bad at running a business, and a lot of what he does is he uses image, fancy buildings and boats and such, to convince people he's more wealthy than he is, and therefore a safe investment, and therefore they give him money to do stuff, and he gets his head above water again. For a time, but then his projects fail and he declares bankruptcy again.

Overstating his wealth by a factor of two is not only common for him, but part of his whole strategy.

If he's *that* bad at running a business, what's he supposed to bring to the presidency? 'Pretending to be richer than you are to get investors' is not exactly a useful skill to have in the job.


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