An, albeit old, video from David Wood I came across. In this video, Wood shows his psychopath self as he talks about how he felt nothing when people died, learned how to make bombs, and then tried to kill his father just to see what it felt like.
He then proceeds to explain how Christianity saved him...
I don't know about you lot, but I'm agnostic and I don't feel the need to bash anyone's head in with a sledge hammer. The scariest part is how the comment section encourages him...
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Not gonna comment on this weird shit specifically.
But for most Christians I know, their drive from their faith to be good isn't due to a fear of Hell. It's due to their belief that embodying and acting out love is a redeeming process. In my own experience I can say that the closer I am at any given point to that, the more I feel free from the torture of my own shame and self-deception of my own arrogance, the more each moment in the world lights up around me for my appreciation, the more I feel pulled to act in service to the people around me, and the more I hope I can actually open something up in other people, and the more I seek for other people to open up something good in me.
I certainly can't speak for all Christians, but I can speak for myself in saying I am not primarily driven by a fear of punishment (I'm a universal reconciliationist after all), and I can't speak for but I can speak about most of the Christians I personally know and say I trust from all I've seen of them and all the time I've spent with them that they aren't that way either.
This shouldn't be taken as me arguing for God's existence in this thread, or arguing atheists can't be good and moral people, after all my best friend, the person who was with me in the most defining night of my life for me who comforted me and spoke with me and helped me understand myself and the importance of love was an atheist.
This isn't me trying to incite some pissing contest about religion vs atheism, this is simply me stating that for a decent number of people who have become better people because of their faith, it's an unfair characterization of them to say that everything about that comes from a fear of punishment and that they would be some of the worst people imaginable if they did not believe in that punishment.
Shadilay my brothers and sisters. With any luck we will throw off the shackles of normie oppression. We have nothing to lose but our chains! Praise Kek!
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Re: Former Atheist Tried to kill his father; says Jesus saved him
I'll have to check out the video when I get a chance (just out of morbid curiosity and I'm a glutton for torture sometimes), but...
...it doesn't sound like it has anything to do with whether or not Christianity is true. It could seem like a convincing story, and I'm glad it seems to have worked out for him, but it says nothing at all about whether or not Christianity is true. And it's entirely possible that belief in unsubstantiated religion could help some otherwise psychopath be more moral, but the truth is that people generally do not need such unsubstantiated beliefs to be moral. And to imply otherwise is quite frankly rude and intellectually dishonest.
I mean I just don't believe but it does work for a lot of people. Dunno why some atheists wanna spin that as a bad thing. If religion gives order to an otherwise unstable person that seems like a good thing to me.
Read about Solomon and why he told the two women to butcher the child.
The good mother applied critical thinking to the kings command. She wrestled with his decision. She generated a positive solution.
Jesus wrestled with his father, his mother, his peers... with a corrupt state.
With his own fears but by every account we have of him he reacted with positive solution after positive solution.
Even when he was technically at fault (like the women before him who technically 'defied' the king) it was always to help people.
People who talk about religion.. you know... religion isn't mentioned at all in the scriptures.
What you will find is multiple references to paths [plural] The teachings of: John The Baptist for example who taught people to live well and was killed for it.
Jesus was asked what do you say of John's teachings. If you've read the bible you know the gist of what he said.
Jesus was a great teacher because more than anyone he spoke in such a way that you actually have to (there is no get out option) you have to use your critical thinking skills to work things out for yourself.
Just like old King Sol.
This guy he found something which worked for him and he is trying to be a better person. He believes he spoke to Jesus.
You will never find any thing in the scriptures... Muslim or Christian about Jesus advising any one to be any thing other than forgiving, patient, kind and generous to other people.
This guy has specifically identified Jesus as a good influence.