I wonder how the machines reacted to the first ONE, it seems they would have been totally unprepared when the first one appeared and started doing the things he could do. And what about what morpheus said, about the one being able to remake the matrix as he saw fit? Where and when does all that come in? NOVEMBER FIFTH .... why couldn't it be like tomorrow or something?
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The first One would have been the person that made the demise of the Eden-like Matrix (according to the Architect, who counts the Matrices by anomalies)... so I suppose, not very well, as the Architect also said, "we are becoming very efficient at it [destroying Zion]" - so I guess they weren't prepared at all, really.
ha i wrote a story about it in the general fiction forum. i made it not like eden, but perfect nontheless. i havnt done the second part
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realize, vim, that what morpheus said in m1 is garbage becuase of everything the architect said in m2. as far as we know right now, the story of the first one was completely false. never happened.
but aside from that, you do have to wonder how they machines reacted to the first real one, the first anomaly.
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The Matrix 1.0, the heavenly one was not disrupted by an anomaly. Rather it was destroyed by a cataclysmic system crash, since no human there would accept it.
Matrix 2.0 (the one we’ve seen), is running now for the 6th time. Morpheus only knows about this 6th run of Matrix 2.0, and the MAN he refers to, was the fifth anomaly, who was allowed to take 23 men and women from the Matrix 2.0 run 5 and rebuild Zion.
We know nothing about the FIRST One, the anomaly in Matrix 2.0 run 1. He may have been freed by free humans, since there is no reason to believe the machines caught all humans at the end of the man-machine war. Not freed the way Neo was, with people hacking into the Matrix (the free humans at that point would have no plugs, unless they fitted themselves with them), but either he freed himself like the kid and was fortunate enough to be found, or the free humans raided the “batteries”. Or the machines, knowing about the paradox of Matrix 2.0 helped free the first human.
The Architect who wrote Matrix version 1.0 and 2.0 would have expected the anomaly. He says in M2, that there was an inherent paradox in giving the sleeping humans a free coice.
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There's a comic about that on the Matrix official website thingy. Can't be bothered to get the link though... I think it's in Series 1, though, near the end.
Omega> I agree with you when you say that the 1st Matrix was not disrupted by an anomaly. However what everyone here has overlooked or forgotten is that there were two failed versions of the Matrix as was alluded to by the architect in "Reloaded". The 1st perfect Matrix which was equalled in its perfection only by its monumental failure. The 2nd Matrix which was redesigned to "more accurately reflect the varying grotesqueries of your (humans) nature", also ended in failure. It was only when the Matrix was reconfigured to give their human batteries a 'choice' was there the emergence of the "systemic anomaly", "The One". So there were actually 8 versions of the Matrix. Two failed versions, five completed cycles and the sixth version on which the Matrix Trilogy is based.
And since were on the topic of "The One", does anyone know what the 'A' in 'Thomas A. Anderson' stands for ?. (Sorry if its a bit off topic but I did'nt want to start a whole new thread to ask this).
Kopeprodgi> The Matrix built on the various grotesqueries of human nature is Matrix 2.0. Perhaps, to make things simpler we can say Matrix 1.0, and then 2.1 up to the one we see 2.6 to tell them apart. Essentially the failures do not matter in this context, since we’re discussing the first anomaly, the first One, and this person can only be in the current versions of the Matrix by programming.
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Omega> Any ideas on what the 'A', in 'Thomas A. Anderson', stands for ? And as for the failed versions of the Matrix, certainly with respect to the theme of this thread their mention may lack relevance, however it was important to note seeing that it was seemingly overlooked by everyone here, including yourself.
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