I saw it. It's great. Check out the trailerhere Jim Carrey does an incredible job and so does Kate Winslet. Wait, everyone does. I love Charlie Kaufman. He's such a talented writer.
I'm not usually into romantic movies but this one was really beautiful in the way he realised he didn't want to lose an important part of his life like that and even though [SPOILER - highlight to read]: he lost the battle against the memory loss they still meet up in the end and fall in love all over again. I usually hate the destiny business but this was really sweet, like in What Dreams May Come when they die, reincarnate together and fall in love again. I think I've watched too many movies where's tons of self sacrifice and tragedy involved which is why this one appeals to me lol, the idea that even though circumstances may be bad [SPOILER - highlight to read]: they'll always find each other in this life or another (symbolic for after they lose their memories) Anyway, enough of the sappiness
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Yeah, Kate Winslet was in Titanic but don't judge her from that. She's great in ESOTSM and if you've ever seen Heavenly Creatures, she's amazing in that as well. She's actually a very versatile actress.
I can't believe you think Adaptation has no point. It's a giant critique of Hollywood blockbusters woven straight into the structure of the film. There are a thousand other points too, but I don't want to spoil the film for others because I'll have to give specific examples AND it'll take too long.
I realize this is an old convo but i'm right with you, foxota. You're so right. The end of the movie is brilliant. In fact the whole movie is brilliant but that discussion has come and gone.
Sorry I'm writing so much everyone! But anyway, i saw the movie since we talked so the title of the film has to do with something that's said in the movie. I don't want to give it away but it's in there and it'll make sense when you see it.
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I recently viewed this movie and enjoyed it very much, especially the acting. Jim Carey and Kate Winslet had not formerly been two of my favorites, but their performances in this movie were exceptional examples of performing artistry. Now I have been able to find a synopsis of this movie, a critique of the film script, reactions by viewers, and other gerneral information about this movie, but I have not been able to find a discussion of the details relating to the story line. Of course its sci-fi quality adds a mysterious element and requires a great deal of creativity from the producer. Here is my main question. It seemed to me that there were THREE initial meetings of the couple outlined in the film. Once they met on a beach at a party, once they met on a train going out to (or returning from?) Long Island, and once they met at a library (post memory erasure). Perhaps I missed something here, but why were there TWO different pre-relationship meetings depicted?
Also, when Clemetine was present in the process of going through his memories (and he even had the ability to bring her into memories in order to hide in memories) where she had not actually participated, How was she present? Was it all his subconscious mind? In fact, do you believe different levels of his mental abilities were being displayed all at the same time? I would like to hear anyone's comments on these subjects. Thank you.
wow! i didn't think about these things until you brought them up... when they meet in the bookstore (at least in the screenplay) joel hasn't been erased yet, but clementine has. when they meet on the train, they've both been erased. when they meet on the beach, they've actually never met before.
Spoiler warning anyone? : [SPOILER - highlight to read]: The structure of the film is laid out to make you think that the first meeting we are shown in the movie is the actual first meeting - a flashback to a happier time pre-brain wipe.
The first indication that this isn't the case is when it's mentioned (by david cross ?) that they met at a beach picnic with friends. It's at that point that (if you are paying attention) you should be able to work out that they will get together again after the wipe.
So when we eventually see the memory of them meeting on the beach (at the picnic) that is in fact the first time they met - and the fact that they both return to the beach post-memory wipe indicates that they both are drawn there by some sort of residual feelings of loss and love.
The "Third meeting" you mention is - I think - a constructed scenario in Joels head rather than a memory of a specific event, but you would have to be a little more specific about which scene you mean.
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