Thats what love is ush, at least at first. It starts off like that usually. Most people will tell you that, at first, love is a near obsession. Of course, over time, it becomes a bit less overwhelming.
Sigh... when I say it didn't work out I rather obviously mean they wquickly found out it WAS NOT LOVE
And I am sorry, but your 'difference' argument does NOT work. These people thought the SAME as you postulate. They are just as capable of feelings as you. The people who it works out for are not some sort of super-lovers. They are just lucky.
And the first time someone who thinks it works for them thinks they are in love and then finds out the hard way how they were not- THEN they will see. And that we have seen too much before as well. it is not ignorance. I am sorry, I have much experience and anecdote here and the totality of that experience screams to me that things are the way I see. The opinions of people who think otherwise but have NOT had to learn the hard way do not impress me at all.
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"We've got maybe seconds before Darth Rosenberg grinds everybody into Jawa burgers and not one of you buds has the midi-chlorians to stop her!"
Also, relationships that stemm from real life often end badly too, by you're logic that would mean that it isnt possible to find true love in real life, because it's gone wrong for so many people.
Love can start with obsession, because it can be a symptomn, but obession does not mean nor does it necessarily lead to love. There are certainly FAR too many people that confuse the two.
"Also, relationships that stemm from real life often end badly too, by you're logic that would mean that it isnt possible to find true love in real life, because it's gone wrong for so many people."
What? How on Earth do you work THAT out? That just means that people do not always get things right. That has no bearing on me saying that you cannot love someone until you meet them. I never said people who meet are therefore ALWAYS right. The whole world is full of people who thought it and were wrong- in person and on-line. Just with on-line they are always wrong, is all.
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"We've got maybe seconds before Darth Rosenberg grinds everybody into Jawa burgers and not one of you buds has the midi-chlorians to stop her!"
I know, it was merely a ridiculous example of how generalizing never works. To say that because something doesnt workout for alot of people, automatically means that it can't exist (like your argument for online relationships, saying that because you have seen it gone wrong so many times, love cant be felt online). It's just faulty logic, and it is impossible to say what is possible when it comes to a persons feelings.
Again, you are not going to ever make any impression on me by making comments like that because the people who I have known who were wrong said the exact same things. This whole 'you don;t know me' thing is a big irrelevance.
And if you had learned the hard way, Gambit, you would agree with me, seeing what I was talking about learning was that love can only be in person. So clearly you haven't, yeah?
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"We've got maybe seconds before Darth Rosenberg grinds everybody into Jawa burgers and not one of you buds has the midi-chlorians to stop her!"
However, since this conversation obviously isnt going to change anyones feelins on teh topic, i will say that i think online relationships are a mistake usually, and rarely work out.
No not at all, if you looked around u u would know that true love can come and go at ne second and u have to grasp it when u can. Your ideas about love are very close minded and ull learn someday that love isnt this ultimate power its a simple feeling, an emotion that comes and goes, just as one second u can like some one as a friend the next you can hate them.
Complete non sequitur,. I was not saying that I had seen it go wrong with others so therefore it was not possible. I said it was not possible because you have to meet in order to know someone well enough to love them
The only example I made with other people was to counter people saying that they felt they were in love so I was wrong. I just pointed out the others felt that as well so that argument did not wash with me.
And Gambit, I say without reservation that if you think true love can come and go in an instant, you are naive and have MUCH to learn- and I am sure many other swill agree with me. I am sorry, love is beyond mere transient emotion. That is not close-mindedness. That is from knowing.
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"We've got maybe seconds before Darth Rosenberg grinds everybody into Jawa burgers and not one of you buds has the midi-chlorians to stop her!"
Yes, I rather thought you and I would agree on that, BF.
And again, BF, my point is I cannot believe that argument. If I am wrong and I ever feel it to have it proved to me so I shall happily admit it, but because I have seen people who thought it was true love first and were wrong, and who had no less reason to believe so than you, the only possible conclusion I can draw is that you cannot KNOW until you meet.
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"We've got maybe seconds before Darth Rosenberg grinds everybody into Jawa burgers and not one of you buds has the midi-chlorians to stop her!"
That is by far one of the most ridiculous statements I have heard yet. You yourself were the one who said that you had never fallen in love before so how would you know if it is just this simple feeling that comes and goes? Until you have fallen in love you cannot truly say whether or not love is a simple feeling. The many of us who have fallen in love would have a completely different opinion on whether or not it is this simple feeling that comes and goes.
Ok, I will try and lay out what I am saying a little more clearly, BF, so you can see why I think this way
I know people who thought they were in love before they met and certainly were after. Whether they ACTUALLY were beforehand or not is, of course, impossible to prove.
I know people who did not think they were in love before they met, but were after
And I know people who thought they were in love before they met, and were NOT after!
Therefore, from where I stand, I can only conclude that no-one knows, for sure, until after they meet. If you can think you are, and be wrong, and cannot know different until the acid test of meeting... you see where I am coming from?
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"We've got maybe seconds before Darth Rosenberg grinds everybody into Jawa burgers and not one of you buds has the midi-chlorians to stop her!"
Oh yeah, i definately see where you're coming from ush. But i just think it's impossible to say for sure what is, and isnt possible when it comes to something as personal, and diverse as something like love.
I don't wanna put a definition on Love or Romance.
It's not my position to do, Nor am i paid Scientist/Sociology/Psychologist to prove my Theory at all.
Each person is different, they have different feelings about it, there's no point in trying to argue and enforce your own experiences onto others, let them find it out themselves.
Henceforth, I'll meet Kenny one day. We both want this to happen for real. We've both had experiences in the past in Real Life, that determined our own outlooks on Love/Relationships.
We seemed to have changed eachother over the net, will it happen it real life ?? Most likely. Why ?? ..... To me i feel because if he could do this to me and we're oceans apart. It'd be like Magic for real...
And Ush, though you also have experience in that field, that's your experience, not mind and Kenny's. Please don't flame it just yet.
Sigh... again... such words really don't impress me... we've been through this. My argument has never been based on the idea that some experiences prove the rule.
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"We've got maybe seconds before Darth Rosenberg grinds everybody into Jawa burgers and not one of you buds has the midi-chlorians to stop her!"
I think its a valid point my gurl chanel!! and very touching... i would have to say that net relationships don't always prove to be effective, but imagine it a mutual relationship and no physical contact, tell me is that not more effective then any real relationship to fall for someone that you haven't meet, touched seen in real.... can u imagine wot real magic it would create when u finally are face to face...
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Oct 7th, 2003 10:11 PM
Aww 
Its a bunny! 
and very touching... i would have to say that net relationships don't always prove to be effective, but imagine it a mutual relationship and no physical contact, tell me is that not more effective then any real relationship to fall for someone that you haven't meet, touched seen in real.... can u imagine wot real magic it would create when u finally are face to face...
