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jedi212guy
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Registered: Mar 2001
Location: Danville, Kentucky
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I know. The PT will be Palpatine's heyday! 
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Aug 28th, 2001 02:03 AM |
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yerssot
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Couldn't he got a face-lift in ROTJ??? 
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Aug 28th, 2001 12:12 PM |
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KJ
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Registered: Jul 2000
Location: Scotland
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The thing that gets me is that the Empire built a second Death Star the same way as they did the first. With the exact same flaws.
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Aug 28th, 2001 04:22 PM |
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yerssot
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The flaw in ANH was that the exhaust pipe gave DIRECTLY out to the surface so a well-placed torpedo did the trick
The flaw in ROTJ was that the exhaust pipe was too big, so ships could fly in and shoot the main reactor down
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Aug 28th, 2001 06:03 PM |
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jedi212guy
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Registered: Mar 2001
Location: Danville, Kentucky
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I thought that the flaw was different. Because the DS wasn't complete, there was a tunnel that lead to the core for crews to work on it. When the DS would be complete, the tunnel would be filled and there would be no weaknesses to the DS. Palpatine let the Rebels know that it was vulernable. Otherwise, they wouldn't have attacked the DS at all.
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Aug 28th, 2001 06:06 PM |
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yerssot
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No, my young padawan (always wanted to say that  )
"Now you will see the power of this fully armed and operational battlestation!"
I would say it is a complete station.
They didn't complete the circle for the same reason as you thought jedi212guy; so they would think that it wasn't complete. And again the rebels would find a solution
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Aug 28th, 2001 06:17 PM |
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jedi212guy
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Registered: Mar 2001
Location: Danville, Kentucky
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I disagree with that.
I read it in a technical SW booklet that described all of the ships, including the DS. And, if the DS was completed, then they would have closed the blasted tunnel.
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Aug 28th, 2001 06:24 PM |
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yerssot
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A sw book is still not 100% true, the best example is the book ROTJ: Owen is NOT the brother of Obi-Wan so it is not in the movie it is not 100%true
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Aug 28th, 2001 06:37 PM |
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jedi212guy
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Registered: Mar 2001
Location: Danville, Kentucky
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True, if there is a contradiction in a book and the movie, then the book explanation is nullified. However, there is no contradiction in the building of the second DS so the book explanation stands.
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Aug 28th, 2001 07:01 PM |
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Ushgarak
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Yerssot, I think it is pretty darn clear that the reactor could only be reached on the DSII because it is structurally incomplete! Just because it is fully operational it doesn't mean it is finished!
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Aug 28th, 2001 07:37 PM |
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yerssot
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Well, it wasn't the same error I think
ANH: it was straight down
ROTJ: a lot of bumps and turns
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Aug 28th, 2001 07:47 PM |
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Ushgarak
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Well, clearly so! In ANH, they exploited a weakness to blow the reactor. In ROTJ< they just flew through the incomplete superstructure and blasted the thing point-blank.
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Aug 28th, 2001 07:49 PM |
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yerssot
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They FLEW, why? because the way was with TURNS an improvement otherwhise they could shoot again
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Aug 28th, 2001 08:01 PM |
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KJ
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Registered: Jul 2000
Location: Scotland
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It's still the same weakness whatever way you look at it.
The first death star was destroyed by a small fighter.
The second Death star was destroyed by the Falcon and a small fighter.
The first Death Star was destroyed by blowing up one part which caused a chain reaction.
So was the second.
The second Death Star should have had a tighter defence against small ships. And it shouldn't have had it's main power source linked to the entire station. If it's generators were spread out then it would have blown completly.
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Aug 29th, 2001 04:24 PM |
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yerssot
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Ofcourse! It is the only way to blow the DSs up. They 'improved' it with a few turns in it
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Aug 29th, 2001 05:23 PM |
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jedi212guy
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Registered: Mar 2001
Location: Danville, Kentucky
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There was a tighter defense for the second DS. It had a huge fighter defense. The Rebels destroyed enought of them to get through to the DS, and then flew through the superstructure.
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Aug 30th, 2001 05:46 PM |
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yerssot
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That had to do with the fact that the Emperor wanted to destroy the Rebels, it wasn't standard defence
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Aug 30th, 2001 05:57 PM |
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Ushgarak
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Registered: Sep 2000
Location: Chelmsford, Essex, UKCo-Admin
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While it was the reactor they hit on both occasions, it was not via the same means. The exhaust port was tiny,. Yerssot. That was NOT what they were flying through in ROTJ. That was just the incomplete superstructure.
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Aug 30th, 2001 06:05 PM |
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yerssot
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And you don't think that it looked VERY much the same?
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Aug 30th, 2001 06:19 PM |
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Ushgarak
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Registered: Sep 2000
Location: Chelmsford, Essex, UKCo-Admin
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Er... no. I think it looked totally different. What are you talking about?
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