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Nineteen-eighty-four

Im sure many of you have read this book, and who hasnt, you really must!

This is one fo the reasons i didnt like that show 'big brother' was called 'big brother'...because of where the idea came from...embarrasment i know im a geek!

Id really like to discuss this book...did you think it was frightening? I absolutely did...maybe because it COULD happen..the totally control idea really scared me...

Love didnt prevail in the end either...confused basicly the message was ''you cant beat the system''

What did you guys think about it?! confused


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it was good. i like how all feelings, mostly helplessness are depicted. it has really good character work.


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Yeah...agreed.
The whole feel to the book was creepy messed ending just added to it...


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Agent Elrond
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I haven't read this one, but I read George Orwell's other book "Animal Farm" and that was good. It should be similar, dealing with communism and control. I ve talked about this book, Fahrieneit 451 and the movies Equilibrium and The Matrix back ont eh Matrix forum. They're all somewhat similar, dealing with beating the system.


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Dr. Leg Kick
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its good. very good actually but i stick with the classics smile


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I loved this book, but the ending was so bleak. I cried when [SPOILER - highlight to read]: Winston saw his reflection when he was in the ministry of love and he was unrecognisable


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I like 1984 specialy chapter 5!! The infamous room 101 is my favorite part of the book. I remenber discussing the book with other school mates. Their conclusions were different than mine about the book. To them the book is an example of what the world might have become if communism would be taken over the world. But to me the book illustrated a world if Nazism would have won the war.

I really like the book but for some reasons I drew different conclusions on the book theme. However you interpretid the book is still a classic not one of my favorites but it is worth readin it.


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excellent book,

i might it again soon

i forget the line

you're only tuly free if....

i cant remmebr the rest..

but its the basis of the book for real....

reckonize


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We are reading it for the 6th Form bookclub. We are meeting tomorrow. I'll try to come online on thurs and tell ya all their ideas


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Excellent...i might re-read it actually...confused Its not the same though...the ending is a shock in a way...


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i thought the ending was dope

indeed kinda a shock

i thought the book could have been a little better with a little more detail or added story about the oppression....to much jumble with him and the chick...

the philosophical views of the book are on point though

like at the end!!!

hahahaha


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The ending was the best thing about it...I dont think anything else needed to be said....

Winston and his 'chick' were important part...in the end it showed that [SPOILER - highlight to read]: love didnt prevail and he betrayed her..well sort of, as he didnt want to get tourchered so they were an important factor..yes


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it was an important factor

but played on a lot nah mean?

and its didnt really contibute to the end

ina way, but....

i just felt it didnt really apply to the books views

it aint a love story for real


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great book one of the great classics, not as great as the triffids (sp) tho

anywayz in 1948, when the book was written 1984 could well have been like Orwel described it. If you look at the technological part of the book it is CERTAINLY possible today. However I don't see it happening any time soon.


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What we decided was so scary about it is that you look around the world and you can see elements of it everywhere


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Good fiction book. A profecie that became true. sad

Someone is watching me at this moment at the net., there are cameras on street corners, my privacy is violated every momet, everywhere sad


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Good fiction book. A profecie that became true. sad

Someone is watching me at this moment at the net., there are cameras on street corners, my privacy is violated every momet, everywhere sad


In your monitor, there are tiny, little hidden cameras that see evrything you are doing and transmit it to a secret location and if you do anything wrong, they'll get ya.

BTW, it you didn't know 1984 got it's name by inverting the last 2 digits of 1948, the year it was written. Also, George Orwell, isn't the real name of the author. I forgot got, but he though his real name sounded too upper class (He was born in India and was British) and changed it to George Orwell.


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i love this book! so much of what he's saying rings true, like mary shelley's frankenstein he predicts social advances...but are they good??????? LOVE this book!

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People can overstate the similarities between 1984 and the world we live in. Saying something is very 'Big Brother' has become a dreadful cliche and used by many people with no conception of what they are talking about.

I mean, does anyone really think that 1984 was a genuine attempt to make a What If? scenario?


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I think it was a warning rather than a prediction


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