It wouldn't absolutely shock me, but I've never heard Jesus mentioned as existing. And Morpheus mentioned that other than God, Lucifer may be the most powerful being in the universe, so if he does exist in the DCU, Dream apparently doesn't credit him with being as powerful as Lucifer. Or maybe I'm reading to much into an off-hand comment.
__________________ "Men curse the Communist Party, but eventually it may release them. If hell were endless, then God would be worse than our Secret Police."--Pastor Valentin
Well, in the DCU, God is dead, and Lucifer has created his own multiverse to rule over. He is using Michael's illegitimate daughter to banish all immortals from his new multiverse (including God's widow), and is planning the end of the world.
Did I say something religious ? I just said that Jesus has been mentioned in old reports, nothing more. That's history, or is talking about history against the forum rules ? Don't said a thing about miracles or that he is or isn't the son of God or whatever.
It's you who's claiming his miracles can't be proved => I would call that religious talks. I only mentioned a historical point of view, not a religious one.
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Originally posted by Magee
lol Apocolypse as there never was and there never will be a Jesus figure. The bible is just a family story book passed down by thousands of generations.... its the truth.
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you really sound informed on the subject
yea the fact that there was a Jesus or YESHUA BIN YOSHOAH (Jesus son of Joshua) which i think was his real name back then since they dont have a 'J' consenant in the language of Aramaic...and it has been proven countless times over that the person did exist, due to Roman and Hebrew records that are just as credible as any others we have...by your logic one could say the Egyptian Empire never existed, or that China is only 200 years old...followed by the FACT that thousands of generations would equate to a much longer amount of time than you had in mind...hmmm thats two very ignorant comments, there goes your credibility on the subject.
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Originally posted by Linkalicious:
2nd there is no proof that Jesus was anything other than a man. His "miracles" on the bible cannont be proved so they should be considered a LIE until proof can be found.
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just because it cant be proved doesnt mean its a lie, u have to prove its a lie if u want to call it one...we cant even prove that George Bush was elected president, yet soldiers are getting killed in Iraq, you can't personally prove that we dont even live in a heliocentric or geocentric universe...u can look something up in a book and regurgitate it...sounds familiar to someone quoting the Bible
I would say Jesus would win....then he would forgive Apoc, then Apoc would turn good and wander the Earth helping people, like Jules in Pulp Fiction.
my post isnt intentionally "religious" i was just arguing with some peoples' logic and philosophy...i didnt even really state any opinions, except for the one about Jesus winning...i apoligize if i offend anyone
wow Wynndar even though that was incredibly long and incredibly hard to understand i think that what you said is very educated
and smart and ...how did you know all that stuff about aramaic and no j or something but ...i think your correct about what you said jesus all the way
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how could apocalypse win? i mean, just look at his name, its apocalypse... hrmm... "Revelations" ring any bells? If you are giong to pit a biblical figure against somebody in comic-verse, you might as well accept all that comes with the character, in this case prophesies, son of God, etc. Seeing all the prophecies about him and the apacolypse, i'm guessing it shouldnt be too hard to figure out an answer...
Dude... Jesus would just fly up into the air and blast apocoylpse with his jesus beams of absoloute righteousness. He'd then land and turn a couple gallons of water into wine and have a kick ass after party.